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Location: Upper Left USA | On my acoustic 12 strings the octave strings are strung first (on the down stroke). I had an opportunity to play a Hamer solid 12 string the other day (NEW-XXX?) where the octaves were strung second.
Are there rules here that I'm missing? |
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Location: NJ | That's the same way a Rickenbacker-12 is strung.
I've been thinking of having a new nut cut for my Ultra-12 and stringing it in that fashion just for shits & giggles . . . |
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Location: Fayetteville, NC | Cliff,
Got some extra time on your hands?? :rolleyes:
Actually I've seen 12 strings done each way..I've yet to determine a sound difference. |
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Location: Yucaipa, California | It would seem that, for fingerpickers (up-picking) the sound would be more octave-bright than that with downstroke flat picker/strummers... :confused: ... with my Balladeer, I can fingerpick with almost no octave inclusion at all.... :cool: |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Just re-strung a Deacon 12 and it's on the down-stroke too. |
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Location: SoCal | I always thought that Ricks were the only 12's strung with the octave string below the regular string. I'm surprised to hear about a Hamer strung the same way. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Correct my logic if needed.
Octave first works for even picking and (bare) fingerpicking while octave second will require harder picking and may downplay the octave sound.
Does anyone leave out the octave and just double the main course on a 12 string? |
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Location: NJ | That'd be a lot of pull on the neck.
You'd probably have to de-tune . . . |
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Location: Scotland | I've seen crude Mexican Bajo Sextos & Quintos without neck-rods which take double-courses without major problems, so the grafito-reinforced Deacon & P-Deluxe 12 necks should be fine as long as the string guages are sensible. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | The first I ever saw with the octave low was Rics but I could never get comfortable with the neck. Hamer has made 12s both ways. Most acoustics are octave up. I've got the longneck 12 octave down. I find there is a sound difference. It's like a 6 string with the after thought the octave strings rather than hearing something in Nashville tuning with the regular strings as the after thought. It is a smalllll difference however. |
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Location: NJ | Ric necks are generally small making them easy to play for some and a nightmare for others.
I do love the way they sound and how they are strung. IMHO the best 12 string electric I ever played was the Hamer newport. It is well made and balanced I was going to keep it but a customer fell in love with it and the rest is history... |
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