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dolbyscat
Posted 2004-07-20 2:56 PM (#182446)
Subject: nuts?!


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in preparation for a new set of strings i decided to remove the old set and give my 1537 a good clean and polish.seems the nut is no longer firmly attached to the neck,in fact it's not attached in any way at all.what should i use to re-attach? how firmly should it be fixed? would this have had a significant effect on the sound?
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MWoody
Posted 2004-07-20 3:18 PM (#182447 - in reply to #182446)
Subject: Re: nuts?!



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When the strings are installed they will hold it in place. The only risk is side-to-side shift. I would think that a little Titebond or hide glue would be sufficient and removable if needed. Just a little placed underneath (not visible). The square seating of the nut is the more critical aspect.

Most nuts I thought were held in place by the gunk deposits over the years!

MHO
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dolbyscat
Posted 2004-07-20 3:22 PM (#182448 - in reply to #182446)
Subject: Re: nuts?!


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guess i'll stop cleaning that gunk off. thanx woody,i really did'nt know if it was critical or not.
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MWoody
Posted 2004-07-20 3:34 PM (#182449 - in reply to #182446)
Subject: Re: nuts?!



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Keep in mind that I'm not too smart and I move heavy things for a living!

Stand by for a second opinion from Charlie(Titebond)B, my personal repair-it hero!

Maybe Paul T can tell us about the cohesive bonding characteristics of similar and disimilar materials in an acoustically stressed environment using homogeneous gels and sols as a binding agent.

And who was that guy that Hot Glued his braces some time back?

I really love this place! ;)
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dolbyscat
Posted 2004-07-20 3:38 PM (#182450 - in reply to #182446)
Subject: Re: nuts?!


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Uhuh,i think i got some of that.Now where's that dictionary?
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seesquare
Posted 2004-07-20 5:07 PM (#182451 - in reply to #182446)
Subject: Re: nuts?!


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Glad to ascertain I am NOT the only one with "dictionary breath"!!
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CharlieB
Posted 2004-07-20 5:15 PM (#182452 - in reply to #182446)
Subject: Re: nuts?!


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oh man... a label on me now....

If you dont have Titebond plain old Elmers Carpenters Wood Glue is quite nearly the same thing (or maybe its the exact same thing). Do not confuse this with white Elmers, which is different. We're talking the creamy yellow stuff.

You only need like two drops... just enough to tack it down and keep it there in case you take all the strings off. As a wear item, its supposed to come off pretty easy, so a new one can be fitted.
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dolbyscat
Posted 2004-07-20 5:30 PM (#182453 - in reply to #182446)
Subject: Re: nuts?!


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thanx charlie,but thinkin' woody was feedin' me a line i went for the two part epoxy and two wood screws thru the back of the neck, is that maybe overkill? or is there more i could do to be sure this dosnt re-occur?
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MWoody
Posted 2004-07-20 5:35 PM (#182454 - in reply to #182446)
Subject: Re: nuts?!



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That's it! Nail guns at 20 paces! :p
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dolbyscat
Posted 2004-07-20 5:39 PM (#182455 - in reply to #182446)
Subject: Re: nuts?!


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meet you at the border.
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dolbyscat
Posted 2004-07-20 6:06 PM (#182456 - in reply to #182446)
Subject: Re: nuts?!


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thinking about the sensitive nature of things at the border crossings these days it's probably not a wise move to even approach one with a water pistol.I can also see the headlines,"mad washington luthier attacks canadian finger picker" and i doubt that i could get a licence for either of those weapons,Canada eh! enjoy the day.
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Beal
Posted 2004-07-20 6:35 PM (#182457 - in reply to #182446)
Subject: Re: nuts?!



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a little bit of any kinda glue is good. the elmers is good like he said in case you want to remove it easily in the future.
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dolbyscat
Posted 2004-07-20 6:49 PM (#182458 - in reply to #182446)
Subject: Re: nuts?!


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thanks cwk just got back with strings and elmers.new strings, aah, makes it feel like a new guitar.
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MWoody
Posted 2004-07-20 7:33 PM (#182459 - in reply to #182446)
Subject: Re: nuts?!



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Glad it's back together safe and sound.

I was thinking about meeting at the Peace Garden near Blaine... and I was suddenly calmed.

BTW - Where is it that the "Eh" thing comes from, eh?

Play on!
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dolbyscat
Posted 2004-07-20 7:45 PM (#182460 - in reply to #182446)
Subject: Re: nuts?!


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no idea Woody,actually i'm not canadian, i'm a U.S resident, but imported from the U.K,married a canadian a couple of years ago.So now i'm in a permanent state of confusion eh!
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CharlieB
Posted 2004-07-21 5:52 AM (#182461 - in reply to #182446)
Subject: Re: nuts?!


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....in case you want to remove it....

Well unless some truck runs over it, or it falls off a spaceship, or I sit on it, somebody somewhere, someday is gonna want to take it off. Why not make it easy on 'em?

Super glue, epoxy and the like will take a little wood from under the nut when you tap 'em off.
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2004-07-21 11:17 AM (#182462 - in reply to #182446)
Subject: Re: nuts?!



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I have used Elmer's white glue numerous times on replacing nuts that came loose. It may not be the most permanent repair, but that is the point.
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