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ProfessorBB
Posted 2010-11-26 1:12 PM (#278331)
Subject: Incorrectly identified Ovation on the Bay



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This is listed as an Adamas 1881 which is obviously incorrect. Anybody want to guess what it is? Looks very similar to a 1547.
Adamas 1881 Ebay Listing
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stephent28
Posted 2010-11-26 1:37 PM (#278332 - in reply to #278331)
Subject: Re: Incorrectly identified Ovation on the Bay



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It's been a while since I had a 1547 but it sure seems like it might be.

Might be a steal for someone to snatch up.
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G8r
Posted 2010-11-26 1:38 PM (#278333 - in reply to #278331)
Subject: Re: Incorrectly identified Ovation on the Bay


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Interesting. Looks like the multi-ply wood binding used on the 1537, 1538 and 1547, but I thought all of those had the 2-knob stereo FET pre-amp (at least mine do). This looks like it has an OP-24 series pre-amp, with the side battery compartment next to the pre-amp. The back shots of the bowl don't appear as though it ever had two output jacks.
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Beal
Posted 2010-11-26 1:47 PM (#278334 - in reply to #278331)
Subject: Re: Incorrectly identified Ovation on the Bay



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I'd guess 1547
Somebody jump, these are some of the absolute best elites ever made.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-11-26 3:17 PM (#278335 - in reply to #278331)
Subject: Re: Incorrectly identified Ovation on the Bay


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1547.


The preamp was changed out. And the factory can patch the bowl so you'd never know it had been done. The bowl also looks like it was re-shot with texture coating. But the wood binding, cutaway, and walnut fretboard scream out "1547".

Really a great guitar. I was tempted to steal Beal's a couple of years ago......
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G8r
Posted 2010-11-26 4:42 PM (#278336 - in reply to #278331)
Subject: Re: Incorrectly identified Ovation on the Bay


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Stephen or Paul, how much different would this be from my 87C?
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stephent28
Posted 2010-11-26 5:28 PM (#278337 - in reply to #278331)
Subject: Re: Incorrectly identified Ovation on the Bay



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well, your SPECIFIC 87C would be hard to beat but the 1547 is unique in its rarity.

I greatly prefered the 1547 over the numerous 1537s that I have owned and when it came time to sell, it was the last one to go (except for the '87C which was my last Ovation woodtop).

Be a great one to pick up if you can swing it.
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Beal
Posted 2010-11-26 5:35 PM (#278338 - in reply to #278331)
Subject: Re: Incorrectly identified Ovation on the Bay



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worth it if you can Serge. You could always move it later if needed.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-11-26 5:41 PM (#278339 - in reply to #278331)
Subject: Re: Incorrectly identified Ovation on the Bay


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Gator, I don't know, sound-wise, how different it would sound. It's like playing my 87C against my 1537. They're different, but it's hard to say how.

But one reason for the difference is 15 years of aging and playing on the 1537 vs. the 87C.

If you could swing it, it would be worth buying. It's rare and cool and you could always move it later assuming you get it at a good price.

I mean, your wife is getting all the kids she ever wanted. Don't you deserve all the guitars you ever wanted?
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2010-11-26 5:52 PM (#278340 - in reply to #278331)
Subject: Re: Incorrectly identified Ovation on the Bay



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Can't tell for sure, but could this be another SSB proto, like mine? The reason I ask is because in one of the accompanying photos in the listing, and more specifically, the close-up of the bowl, it appears that the bottom of the heel joins the bowl very close to the curvature of the bowl. In this same photo, there does not appear to be much space between the bottom of the preamp housing and the bowl curve. Finally, notice the space clearance between the bottom of the bowl and the stand supports where the supports curve upward? My recollection is that there is little room for such clearance with a deep bowl. The seller provides lots of other dimensions, but none for bowl depth. Just a curious observation.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2010-11-26 8:33 PM (#278341 - in reply to #278331)
Subject: Re: Incorrectly identified Ovation on the Bay


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Also, it doesnt' seem to have two output jacks for stereo and mono.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-11-26 11:10 PM (#278342 - in reply to #278331)
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Read what I wrote, Mark....
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Bluebird
Posted 2010-11-27 12:10 AM (#278343 - in reply to #278331)
Subject: Re: Incorrectly identified Ovation on the Bay



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I agree with the prof...this looks like a SS bowl guitar.
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Beal
Posted 2010-11-27 8:01 AM (#278344 - in reply to #278331)
Subject: Re: Incorrectly identified Ovation on the Bay



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then it will be real close to a 1984. Still be worth getting.
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bvince
Posted 2010-11-27 12:12 PM (#278345 - in reply to #278331)
Subject: Re: Incorrectly identified Ovation on the Bay



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One other distinct observation is the smaller epaulet on the right. The top side looks like it has been trimmed differently than other ones. The shape is not the same on the top. Since it doesn't appear to have sticker inside and no serial number or (correct)model number noted, I'd also suspect it to be a prototype of the 1547. Could be an employee-made guitar. (??) If it IS in fact a shallow or SS bowl, I personally wouldn't be interested in it.
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bvince
Posted 2010-11-29 2:22 PM (#278346 - in reply to #278331)
Subject: Re: Incorrectly identified Ovation on the Bay



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FYA... I contacted the seller and he said the bowl depth is 4 1/4 inches.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2010-11-29 3:36 PM (#278347 - in reply to #278331)
Subject: Re: Incorrectly identified Ovation on the Bay



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Thanks, Vince. That makes it a SSB. According to Jerome's site . . .

SSB = 4 1/16
SB = 5 1/8
MDB = 5 1/4
DB = 5 13/16
Adamas = 6 1/16
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2010-11-30 2:36 PM (#278348 - in reply to #278331)
Subject: Re: Incorrectly identified Ovation on the Bay


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Wilson Roberts, a local guy who used to be an Ovation Key Man, told me he had a very similar guitar he bought from Kip Attaway and was told by the factory that it was built by an employee from odds and ends. He thought his was one of a kind, but his brother still has his old one in Arkansas.
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bvince
Posted 2010-12-02 8:39 AM (#278349 - in reply to #278331)
Subject: Re: Incorrectly identified Ovation on the Bay



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I also just noticed from the picture, what looks like a possible bridge re-glue.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2010-12-02 9:08 AM (#278350 - in reply to #278331)
Subject: Re: Incorrectly identified Ovation on the Bay



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Sold for what appears to be a very good price, but the winning zero bidder popping up at the end of the auction always raises questions.
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hwebster
Posted 2010-12-02 9:51 AM (#278351 - in reply to #278331)
Subject: Re: Incorrectly identified Ovation on the Bay


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I was wondering also about the winning bidder. but then fixing the smaller epaulet will add to the price.
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