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maliberd![]() |
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Joined: April 2008 Posts: 9 Location: France | Hello, Beetween the to reissue models 1687 and 1187 does the materials use for the roundback (lyrachord for 1687 and fiber glass for 1187) have an impact on the sound ? Bernard. | ||
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moody, p.i.![]() |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15678 Location: SoCal | You mean like the difference between mahoganey and rosewood? Not that much, but some...... | ||
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maliberd![]() |
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Joined: April 2008 Posts: 9 Location: France | Not that much, but some...... Doesn't mean a lot of thing for me. Moody please could you precise ? | ||
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Charlie Ramon![]() |
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Joined: August 2004 Posts: 709 Location: Germany | The 1187 (called #47RI on this board) sounds much better than the 1687. One reason is the lighter bracing, another reason could be the bowl material. The 1187 bowl is made of hand-laid fiberglass whereas the 1687 bowl is molded. Just a thought. They used the term Lyrachord since the end of the 60s when all the bowls were hand-laid. It's not only an expression for the molded bowls. Karl | ||
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moody, p.i.![]() |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15678 Location: SoCal | How do you quantify what your ear hears? The old fiberglass bowls vibrate more than the later bowls. But there are other things involved besides just the bowl. I think the tops are slightly different in the construction as well, but I'm not certain as to how. I have no idea how to quantify sound. Anybody else want to jump in here? | ||
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cliff![]() |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842 Location: NJ | I would, but my Architectural Dance Shoes are in the shop . . . | ||
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Slipkid![]() |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301 Location: south east Michigan | Welcome Maliberd... Maybe you need to get in touch with Jerome, an OFC member who is a fellow countryman of yours. | ||
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maliberd![]() |
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Joined: April 2008 Posts: 9 Location: France | One reason is the lighter bracing OK Charlie, for sure the bracing is the main contributory factor to the sound. Welcome Maliberd... Maybe you need to get in touch with Jerome, an OFC member who is a fellow countryman of yours. Thanks Slipkid, I'm also a member of the OT forum. | ||
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Paul Templeman![]() |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750 Location: Scotland | Originally posted by maliberd: No, it's not. Bracing is only one of several important contributing factors, each just as important as the other. The sound of any guitar is the sum of it's parts. You could brace a plywood top anyway you like, but it won't make it sound like anything but ply.for sure the bracing is the main contributory factor to the sound. | ||
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ProfessorBB![]() |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 5881 Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | The OFC guitars are supposed to be similar to the 47RIs but with electronics added and finished in a different color. Does this mean that the OFC guitar bowls also hand-laid fiberglass? | ||
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Paul Templeman![]() |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750 Location: Scotland | Yes, they are. | ||
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maliberd![]() |
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Joined: April 2008 Posts: 9 Location: France | No, it's not. Bracing is only one of several important contributing factors. OK paul, I'd rather say one of the main... | ||
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Tupperware![]() |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903 Location: Phoenix AZ | To my ears the 47RI and the OFC guitar actually sound quite different (I own both). There are many factors - presence of the preamp, hatch door in the bowl, different color paint, etc ... but I would guess the biggest factor is the saddle design and material. Dave | ||
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Tim in Tidewater![]() |
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Joined: December 2005 Posts: 1234 Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | To my ears the 47RI and the OFC guitar actually sound quite different There's no doubt about that, the two definately have their own voicing. As for the rest of what makes what do what...I have no clue...different mojo ingredants I guees. | ||
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cliff![]() |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842 Location: NJ | Dave, throw your SlotHead into the mix & you'll have 3 different "voices" . . . (oops! . . . sorry. Didn't see your post on the other thread . . .) | ||
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