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tremor
Posted 2009-12-19 11:40 PM (#386180)
Subject: Question about cracks.


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I am bored tonight and after checking out ebay all night, it came to me that one of the first things I look for is top cracks in Ovation's.

I know humidity plays a big part in surface cracks but, do Ovations crack more due to the fact that the back is not wood?

I love Ovation's and will be a fan for life. Just wondering?
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-12-19 11:59 PM (#386181 - in reply to #386180)
Subject: Re: Question about cracks.
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Originally posted by tremor:
ue to the fact that the back is not wood?
I would say that and the relatively 'thick' finishes on the earlier 'O's.
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tremor
Posted 2009-12-20 12:34 AM (#386182 - in reply to #386180)
Subject: Re: Question about cracks.


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Good point. Didn't think about the finish thickness.
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tremor
Posted 2009-12-20 2:06 AM (#386183 - in reply to #386180)
Subject: Re: Question about cracks.


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I got my first Ovation new in 1979 (wish I still had it) and I guess the finish was pretty thick now that I think about it. But it sure was pretty!
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Michael R. Winters
Posted 2009-12-20 7:02 AM (#386184 - in reply to #386180)
Subject: Re: Question about cracks.



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I'm lucky I guess, my 68 DB doesn't have any cracks :)
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cholloway
Posted 2009-12-20 11:44 AM (#386185 - in reply to #386180)
Subject: Re: Question about cracks.


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Originally posted by 2ifbyC:
I would say that and the relatively 'thick' finishes on the earlier 'O's.
I've heard that reasoning before but, wouldn't a thinner layer of hardened varnish tend to crack easier than a thick one?
I dunno.
I'm just sayin'.
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2009-12-20 12:38 PM (#386186 - in reply to #386180)
Subject: Re: Question about cracks.


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It wasn't so much the thickness as the type of finish. In the early years it was polyester which was more brittle than the polyurethane used later.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-12-20 1:12 PM (#386187 - in reply to #386180)
Subject: Re: Question about cracks.
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Originally posted by CanterburyStrings:
the type of finish
Ah ha... from one who should know!

Thanx Alison... ;)
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Stephan Cheney
Posted 2009-12-22 3:50 PM (#386188 - in reply to #386180)
Subject: Re: Question about cracks.


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Just had my Ovation repaired which had a crack just below the bridge. It was repaired by Ovation at their factory in New Hartford. Mine could have been due to a cold night on the road one evening, many years ago. That crack never got worse so I decided to leave it alone. Today, my 1968 Glenn Campbell 12-string went back to it's place of birth for an overhaul. The Ovation crew did a fantastic job of getting this guitar back in shape. It's an A701 12-string. I thought it may have been due to the additional stresses from the 12 strings so I just de-tuned it to a "D" and left it there. It's been fine for me ever since. I just travel with a capo. I don't believe it has anything to do with the back being hard. I think that's just a myth about Ovations.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-12-22 4:40 PM (#386189 - in reply to #386180)
Subject: Re: Question about cracks.


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Coincidentally, I was just reading something that Guild put out on guitar maintenance. I think it was before Fender moved Guild to New Hartford. Anyway, it said cracks were caused by the wood expanding from cold to warm temperatures at a different rate than the finish. If that's the cause, squareback guitars would have more surfaces prone to cracking compared to Ovations.
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Jimbob
Posted 2009-12-22 5:03 PM (#386190 - in reply to #386180)
Subject: Re: Question about cracks.


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Originally posted by Stephan Cheney:
Just had my Ovation repaired which had a crack just below the bridge. It was repaired by Ovation at their factory in New Hartford. Mine could have been due to a cold night on the road one evening, many years ago. That crack never got worse so I decided to leave it alone. Today, my 1968 Glenn Campbell 12-string went back to it's place of birth for an overhaul. The Ovation crew did a fantastic job of getting this guitar back in shape. It's an A701 12-string. I thought it may have been due to the additional stresses from the 12 strings so I just de-tuned it to a "D" and left it there. It's been fine for me ever since. I just travel with a capo. I don't believe it has anything to do with the back being hard. I think that's just a myth about Ovations.
Thank you tremor for starting this thread.
Stephan, like yourself I have the same hairline crack in the finish below the bridge. It does not affect the tone or transmit any buzzes. Also it is not visible from the inside with a 7watt bulb and mirror. I also have dropped the EADGBE to DGCFAD and use the capo at the 2nd fret when playing in company.
Jim.
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