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Brown cases...Vintage...or just old?

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Norseman1
Posted 2009-12-16 1:17 AM (#386892)
Subject: Brown cases...Vintage...or just old?


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Question...I have a couple brown vintage deep bowl cases, and a few more modern black deep bowl cases. As I sell/trade/whatever guitars, is there any reason to keep the brown over the black (assuming they are designed to hold the same type of deep bowl Ovation)? Being newer, the black ones are in better condition, but all functional.

Norse(slow night and I cannot sleep)man1
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noah
Posted 2009-12-16 1:57 AM (#386893 - in reply to #386892)
Subject: Re: Brown cases...Vintage...or just old?



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I like the modern black cases.
At one time, I preferred the OEM period specific case for a guitar. Now, I don't see any added value, but a collector would probably view the vintage case as part of the complete package.
The vintage brown cases tend to be brittle from age. An impact that dents a new black case would probably crack the shell of the old brown ones. If I take the 1537 out, I throw it in a black case.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-12-16 8:54 AM (#386894 - in reply to #386892)
Subject: Re: Brown cases...Vintage...or just old?
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Originally posted by noah:
The vintage brown cases tend to be brittle from age.
Agreed, plus I think they're a tad heavier. But my preference is to match the case to the era of the guitar.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-12-16 8:59 AM (#386895 - in reply to #386892)
Subject: Re: Brown cases...Vintage...or just old?


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my preference is to match the case to the era of the guitar.
Ding Ding Ding....Ladies and Gentlemen: we have a winner!!!! :cool: :D
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Michael R. Winters
Posted 2009-12-16 9:07 AM (#386896 - in reply to #386892)
Subject: Re: Brown cases...Vintage...or just old?



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I'm along the same lines as the two guys above, I like the more original era cases to go with era of the guitars too.

I guess that means I'll have to eventually hunt a brown one down for my Boy's 77 CB Deepie.

Funny, talknig about original cases I've never seen any of the old, old cases popping up for sale anywhere, does that makes my 68 DB's original case with the hideous orange velvet lining kinda rare too?
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twistedlim
Posted 2009-12-16 9:16 AM (#386897 - in reply to #386892)
Subject: Re: Brown cases...Vintage...or just old?


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+4 on Iffy's idea. I am on the lookout for a great condition case for my old pacemaker. I happened upon a new deep bowl case that I use for it now (at $25 I could not say no) but I would rather have one of the vintage of the guitar.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-12-16 10:03 AM (#386898 - in reply to #386892)
Subject: Re: Brown cases...Vintage...or just old?


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+1 with Noah. A case is a case is a case. I want the best case I can have for any guitar I take out. I've got one modern case that I use most of the time for whatever guitar I'm taking. The rest of the cases are stored somewhere. If I have to make a mass exodus, then I'll put any guitar in any case.

If you wanna be anal about something, that's fine. I'm just not anal about "era proper" cases. I want the best case, period.....
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fletcher
Posted 2009-12-16 10:15 AM (#386899 - in reply to #386892)
Subject: Re: Brown cases...Vintage...or just old?


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The only designation I'll make is with the original shiny bowls. I prefer finding the Gieb or Lifton cases that are "period correct" for those.

That said, I would never ship in one of those old cases - they simply don't provide the protection of the later brown and black cases.

For out of house protection, I prefer the black ones for the same reasons others have stated; most of the brown ones seem to be more brittle from age.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-12-16 12:15 PM (#386900 - in reply to #386892)
Subject: Re: Brown cases...Vintage...or just old?


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A case is a case is a case. I want the best case I can have for any guitar I take out. I've got one modern case that I use most of the time for whatever guitar I'm taking. The rest of the cases are stored somewhere. If I have to make a mass exodus, then I'll put any guitar in any case.

If you wanna be anal about something, that's fine. I'm just not anal about "era proper" cases. I want the best case, period.....
I have my -7 Adamas I twins sitting happily in brand new 9150 cases...and they are very happy and snug and I feel very good when I transport them to a gig or to church...
My agreement about the Brown vs. Black /vintage vs. modern cases was entirely from a collector standpoint: originality is always worth more is the rule...
However, since I haven't found a set of matched vintage brown cases for the twins, I am not losing sleep over it....

But Anal??????
nope....
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marenostrum
Posted 2009-12-16 12:20 PM (#386901 - in reply to #386892)
Subject: Re: Brown cases...Vintage...or just old?



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Originally posted by 2ifbyC:
Originally posted by noah:
The vintage brown cases tend to be brittle from age.
Agreed, plus I think they're a tad heavier. But my preference is to match the case to the era of the guitar.
Modern cases have a softer and consistent inside and probably better protect guitars then the old ones, but I'm with Iffy trying to match the case to the era of the guitar.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-12-16 12:47 PM (#386902 - in reply to #386892)
Subject: Re: Brown cases...Vintage...or just old?
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I don't fly with guitars nor have any gigs. If I did, then I would use the best case for the situation(s).

As for OFC 'gatherings', I pack, haul and unpack. No airline baggage manglers or pickled customers to fret about...

BTW, I'm not a collector... just a COA (Chronic Ovation Accumulator)...
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-12-16 1:22 PM (#386903 - in reply to #386892)
Subject: Re: Brown cases...Vintage...or just old?


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Originally posted by fletcher:
The only designation I'll make is with the original shiny bowls. I prefer finding the Gieb or Lifton cases that are "period correct" for those.
That would be the one exception. If you've got the original case from those days, it's very cool. But Fletch, when I took out the guitar I sold you to play somewhere, I took it in a modern case. The original case stayed in storage....
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Norseman1
Posted 2009-12-16 2:02 PM (#386904 - in reply to #386892)
Subject: Re: Brown cases...Vintage...or just old?


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...it's good to see we are all of the same thought :eek: !
Just thought I would ask what you all think...just in case.

Norse(If the case be that you need a case, it's best to case the right case...just in case :cool: )man1
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2009-12-16 3:32 PM (#386905 - in reply to #386892)
Subject: Re: Brown cases...Vintage...or just old?


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Wow. I was thinking the opposite about the brown cases being more brittle. I have seen so many of the BLACK cases with broken out spots on them. The brown ones I have are a lot more rugged. I have never seen a brown case with chunks of brown broken out. And they are old! My 1617 has been everywhere with me, cross country trips, wild parties (back when I was young :D ) , banged and bumped and generally abused. Still all in one piece. The black cases are NEW and I have had LOTS of them come in broken. :confused:
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Patch
Posted 2009-12-16 4:21 PM (#386906 - in reply to #386892)
Subject: Re: Brown cases...Vintage...or just old?



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I've replaced every case I have except the original Brown case for my Patriot. And even that one might be replaced as well down the road, because it's of the narrow-headstock, very-tight-fitting variety that can actually be a little tricky when it comes to removing and replacing your instrument.

And while I like the newer 9158, I'm perfectly aware that it probably won't age any better than other plastic cases.

To tell the truth, I GENUINELY wish Ovation offered a premium case along the lines of the TKL that was issued with the 97 Collector's. If a case like that was available that said "Ovation" on it, I would gradually replace every case I have yet again!

Why?

I learned the hard way that a good guitar needs the best case you can afford when my C. Balladeer went cartwheeling down a flight of concrete steps years ago. A buckle was torn clean off the case, but the guitar wasn't even scratched. Apparently my guardian angel also plays guitar. :cool:
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fletcher
Posted 2009-12-16 4:43 PM (#386907 - in reply to #386892)
Subject: Re: Brown cases...Vintage...or just old?


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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
That would be the one exception. If you've got the original case from those days, it's very cool. But Fletch, when I took out the guitar I sold you to play somewhere, I took it in a modern case. The original case stayed in storage....
Yes, so do I. (use modern cases for transport)

That's what I meant when I said, "for out of the house protection, I prefer the black cases."

Alison's point is interesting though, so maybe I should be a bit more flexible. It very well could be that my 2 black cases are simply in better condition than the brown cases I have.

My favorite case is actually one that came with a Celebrity CC2474 Bass I purchased from OMA. I have no idea if it was original to the bass or not but I wish I had cases like it for my other ovations. Pictures were posted for the sale back on 13 July 09. Don't know how to put a link here :(
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stephent28
Posted 2009-12-16 6:30 PM (#386908 - in reply to #386892)
Subject: Re: Brown cases...Vintage...or just old?



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Padded gig bag works best for local stuff. Lighter and easier to carry.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-12-16 7:51 PM (#386909 - in reply to #386892)
Subject: Re: Brown cases...Vintage...or just old?
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Originally posted by fletcher:
Pictures were posted for the sale back on 13 July 09.
MORE PICS...



Nice case!


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fletcher
Posted 2009-12-16 9:49 PM (#386910 - in reply to #386892)
Subject: Re: Brown cases...Vintage...or just old?


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Originally posted by Patch:


To tell the truth, I GENUINELY wish Ovation offered a premium case along the lines of the TKL that was issued with the 97 Collector's. If a case like that was available that said "Ovation" on it, I would gradually replace every case I have yet again!
Just checked the bass case and it is made by TKL!
Thanks for posting the pic Iffy :D

So are TKL cases "official" ovation for some models?
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geneo
Posted 2009-12-16 10:23 PM (#386911 - in reply to #386892)
Subject: Re: Brown cases...Vintage...or just old?


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Originally posted by MusicMishka:
my preference is to match the case to the era of the guitar.
Ding Ding Ding....Ladies and Gentlemen: we have a winner!!!! :cool: :D
tell them what they've won Johnny!
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-12-17 1:29 AM (#386912 - in reply to #386892)
Subject: Re: Brown cases...Vintage...or just old?
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Originally posted by geneo:
tell them what they've won Johnny!
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Michael R. Winters
Posted 2009-12-17 6:44 AM (#386913 - in reply to #386892)
Subject: Re: Brown cases...Vintage...or just old?



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Yeah, I definitely hadn't planned on shipping the 68 DB to MS in the original Lifton when I get home in March.
I noticed a case that was sold a few weeks back that was black "velvet" inside with the logo "stiched" in.
Are these limited edition cases or something?
I like those a bunch.
i would have bought that one but SWMBO has to have a little in the bank for emergencies.
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drift
Posted 2009-12-17 8:24 AM (#386914 - in reply to #386892)
Subject: Re: Brown cases...Vintage...or just old?


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i have a vintage brown slim case that I will sell or trade for a midsize.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2009-12-17 9:50 AM (#386915 - in reply to #386892)
Subject: Re: Brown cases...Vintage...or just old?



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Originally posted by stephent28:
Padded gig bag works best for local stuff. Lighter and easier to carry.
And they're less likely to damage woodwork, door jams, leather car seats, motorcycle paint and chrome, etc.
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geneo
Posted 2009-12-18 12:33 AM (#386916 - in reply to #386892)
Subject: Re: Brown cases...Vintage...or just old?


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Originally posted by 2ifbyC:
Originally posted by geneo:
tell them what they've won Johnny!
<Johnny Olson voice> Geneo, today our contestants take home an Iffy voucher good for a Boiler Room large Steak & Cheese (ATW, please), curly onion fries AND a pitcher of beer of their choice.



Offer only good in Bradenton, FL. Participants must notify Iffy 24 hours prior to redemption. The Boiler Room and Iffy are not responsible for clean up of forearms and chin. Tums® and Crestor® are the responsibility of the contestants. Iffy's family members and friends ARE eligible to participate in this unlimited time offer. Some cows will be harmed in the preparation.


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