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stephent28
Posted 2010-02-23 12:21 PM (#378723)
Subject: pickups



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I know most of us are ovation owners so we already have the pickup system installed but I want to add a system to either my Collings CJ or Bourgeois Dread.

Anyone have experience with the different systems from K&K, Baggs, RMC, etc?
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Weaser P
Posted 2010-02-23 12:34 PM (#378724 - in reply to #378723)
Subject: Re: pickups


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This one looks interesting...
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twistedlim
Posted 2010-02-23 12:39 PM (#378725 - in reply to #378723)
Subject: Re: pickups


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Lyle Lovett uses Sunrise pickups on his Collings and I must say it sounds great:

http://www.elderly.com/brand/PUA_sunrise.html
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SLATFATF
Posted 2010-02-23 12:42 PM (#378726 - in reply to #378723)
Subject: Re: pickups
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Baggs I-Mix. Combines undersaddle Element piezo and bridge plate-mounted I-Beam transducer with noe modification to the guitar other than drilling out the endpin hole to accommodate an endpin jack.
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bburg
Posted 2010-02-23 1:59 PM (#378727 - in reply to #378723)
Subject: Re: pickups



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Hi Stephent28,

I've bourght my Classical 1713 with 2 different systems in the same guitar: the original OP24 system and a Highlander IP-1 system.
The Highlander sounds much better than the OP24.
The electronics are in the endpinjack, the piezo is undersaddle, the battery inside near the soundhole. No EQ or Volumecontrol, but big sound.

Bernie
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Darkbar
Posted 2010-02-23 3:54 PM (#378728 - in reply to #378723)
Subject: Re: pickups



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Originally posted by Weaser P:
This one looks interesting...
I'd be embarrassed to even post that
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Beal
Posted 2010-02-23 5:07 PM (#378729 - in reply to #378723)
Subject: Re: pickups



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Location: 6 String Ranch
put on a Floyd Rose.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2010-02-23 5:20 PM (#378730 - in reply to #378723)
Subject: Re: pickups



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Just get an Artec undersaddle piezo with an Endpin Preamp and there you go...

Minimal drilling and you are all set.

Or you can just run the piezo straight to an endpin jack and use an external preamp.
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Waskel
Posted 2010-02-23 5:24 PM (#378731 - in reply to #378723)
Subject: Re: pickups



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How about a K&K trinity system with an ebony vintage jack with the internal plugs?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-02-23 5:58 PM (#378732 - in reply to #378723)
Subject: Re: pickups


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Brilliant!
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Darkbar
Posted 2010-02-23 6:14 PM (#378733 - in reply to #378723)
Subject: Re: pickups



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Originally posted by Waskel:
How about a K&K trinity system with an ebony vintage jack with the internal plugs?
What? Are you crazy? There are countless other suggestions that you haven't even heard yet?
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Capo Guy
Posted 2010-02-23 6:33 PM (#378734 - in reply to #378723)
Subject: Re: pickups



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I use a K & K pure western mini or an L.R.Baggs I-Beam(Passive) and run thru an L.R. Baggs Para DI.

So many options so few guitars to try them in.
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Waskel
Posted 2010-02-23 6:33 PM (#378735 - in reply to #378723)
Subject: Re: pickups



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Just trying to stop the pain...
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stephent28
Posted 2010-02-23 8:44 PM (#378736 - in reply to #378723)
Subject: Re: pickups



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Gallerinski
Posted 2010-02-23 10:42 PM (#378737 - in reply to #378723)
Subject: Re: pickups
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dobro
Posted 2010-02-23 11:51 PM (#378738 - in reply to #378723)
Subject: Re: pickups



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I have installed Fishman Prefix Pro in both my Adamas 1581 and '74 Legend (1117). I swear by them: hot, sensitive and rich. (Pricey!) You can hear the results on our MySpace page below. I will confirm the superiority of Fishman over the stock O pickups (in the Adamas anyway...).
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paganini
Posted 2010-02-24 3:56 AM (#378739 - in reply to #378723)
Subject: Re: pickups


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I love the ovation pickups, they sound so good when recording direct, clean and precise.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2010-02-24 8:58 AM (#378740 - in reply to #378723)
Subject: Re: pickups


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It's pointless discussing make or type of pickup without considering a bunch of other things first: such as what style do you play? (for example a delicate fingersylist will have different pickup requirements to someone who is mainly a rhythm strummer) how agressively do you play? how big are the venues you play in? do you play solo, or in a band? does the band include bass and drums? what kind of amplification do you have? what kind of other sound systems are you likely to encounter? how good are your sound engineering skills? how natural and accurate do you want your tone to be? how natural and accurate does your tone need to be?

Pickups tend to work on a sliding scale of accuracy and transparancy where the more natural they sound the lower their feedback threshold. External microphones are at one end of the spectrum, soundhole magnetics at the other. Everything else, including bridgplate transducers, soundboard bugs, undersaddles and the various combo/blend systems or acoustic modelling systems are somewhere between the two extremes.

There's a number of pickups that can do it all but there will be compromises involved some of the time. Likewise there are certain pickups that sound subjectively "better" than others but will get you into deep trouble in certain situations.

I disagree completely with Greg regarding the superiority of Fishman over the stock Ovation pickup. There is no comparison in terms of string to string response, resistance to feedback, tolerance to varitions in tunings and string guage and a bunch of other stuff. There may well be several pickups out there that sound subjectively "better" than the Ovation pickup but in serious professional situations there are many more factors to consider than just tonal quality

As for the Sunrise pickup. Yes it's a great sounding pickup, but that's what you are hearing. Just the pickup. No matter what guitar you put them in they sound exactly like a Sunrise pickup rather than the guitar. I used one for years for slide. It's a great sound, but you'd better like it. There are much better sounding, smaller, lighter soundhole magnetics out there now.
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