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kotadawg |
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Joined: November 2007 Posts: 1486 Location: Cincinnati | has anyone had a guitar with this much damage repaired? do they replace the entire top? what would a repair like that cost? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=33020678378... | ||
G8r |
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Joined: November 2006 Posts: 3969 | I'm no expert, but I'd expect that would need a top replacement. Prob in the $500-600 range, but that wouldn't include neck work, which it needs, too. | ||
Thanksforallthefish |
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Joined: November 2004 Posts: 1374 | also the bezel/frame for the preamp is trashed.. bet you he has it epoxied to the bowl.. keep looking.... it's 4-500 for a top/bowl replacement... Glenn | ||
Old Man Arthur |
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Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777 Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Dare I repeat myself... Why NOT! :p $500 (or less) at Mom's House, and you got a New Antique! | ||
FlicKreno aka Solid Top |
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 2491 Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Surely them cracks are only @ varnish *finish ( @ cracks , and when the pre /amp is securely fitted to the geetar than that would be okay * if it works properly *, the @ hump @ is probably due to an overtightened trussrod , so , loosen truss considerabely, give it some time * may take weeks * , lower saddle * by removing shims * , re adjust , and it might be worth your while , I hear & read of people , who ship their geetars to the factory , to be re furbished , my very own 1617 looks a mess , but re .furbishing , No no , it carries it s scars and bruises better than I do , for a few dollars only , that axe might be worth it . Vic | ||
G8r |
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Joined: November 2006 Posts: 3969 | Three of those cracks are definitely into the wood, you can see the side grain in one (picture just above the preamp shot). Still, OMA makes a good point. $500-600 for refurbishment and you end up with a darn nice Elite, that is IF the bidding stays low (9 day auction, 'tho, that's a lot of time for people to bid it up). | ||
FlicKreno aka Solid Top |
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 2491 Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Hmmm..I would be careful to make any judgements based on those pictures , my 1617 looks worse at the bridge , yet , the cracks do not follow the * nerves * of the wood , plays Fine too , for a few dollars that axe could make for a nice project to occupy oneself with for these *wintermonths* , but of course , when one wants something * real good * , then buy NEW , LifeLong Guarantee for 1st time buyer , monthly installments , and , g8r has a point , saying > that is IF the bidding stays low (9 day auction, 'tho, that's a lot of time for people to bid it up). Vic | ||
Old Man Arthur |
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Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777 Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Originally posted by g8r: Yeah... To bad there is No BIN... [or at least not anymore, if there was one] Three of those cracks are definitely into the wood, you can see the side grain in one (picture just above the preamp shot). Still, OMA makes a good point. $500-600 for refurbishment and you end up with a darn nice Elite, that is IF the bidding stays low (9 day auction, 'tho, that's a lot of time for people to bid it up). That would be worth a hundred bucks or two to get it and fix it up... But them cracks don't look like my Elmer's Wood Glue would glue it... Hey! I "cracked" a funny! Ooo! another one! | ||
Tony Calman |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619 Location: SoCal | You sure this isn't a result of Katrina? You can do a lot with finish cracks...remove some, make even bad ones almost invisible. Missing piece in top? | ||
John B |
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Joined: January 2004 Posts: 1225 Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | This seller has an interesting definition of "good overall condition". | ||
Slipkid |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301 Location: south east Michigan | But I am impressed how the destruction is so evenly disbursed over the entire instrument. That kind of wreckin' takes some thoughtful intent. | ||
kotadawg |
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Joined: November 2007 Posts: 1486 Location: Cincinnati | looks like that one was stepped on. | ||
fillhixx |
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Joined: November 2005 Posts: 4827 Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | OR helped win the argument. | ||
FlySig |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 4042 Location: Utah | Looks like Andrea's dog worked on the headstock. | ||
Jeff |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 863 Location: Central Florida | Originally posted by kotadawg: Jack, do they replace the entire top? what would a repair like that cost? To answer your original question, what Ovation typically does for a top replacement is replace the entire top and bowl assembly. So, if you were to send this to them for repair, what you'd get back is the original neck with an entirely new body. Somebody guestimated the cost at around $500-600 which I'd say is right in the ballpark. | ||
an4340 |
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Joined: May 2003 Posts: 4389 Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | From the headstock it looks like a regularly gigged guitar, and from the body looks like it was susceptable to cracks and that someone accidently kicked while on stage. | ||
Thanksforallthefish |
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Joined: November 2004 Posts: 1374 | two of my re-furbs ship back home tomorrow..the 1537 and the k-1115 shiny 12.. and the price I quoted above is as they say spot-on plus shipping, tho I'm sure both are going to be spectacular and as always above and beyond the requested repairs. the elite classical custom should be following them home next week as the neck re-set was rather simple, and just having the frets dressed and a clean up on it.. plus a carved TRC added. 1718s are great deep bowl guitars, I just think you could find one in good or better condition without involving a trip to mother..for less money overall.. but if it stays cheap enough, for the work the crew in Hartford does it IS worth it. Glenn | ||
kotadawg |
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Joined: November 2007 Posts: 1486 Location: Cincinnati | Glenn, I started this post out of curiosity. I know a lot of members send their guitars back to the factory for repairs and refurbishing. I'm new to the world of Ovation and I'm just trying to learn as much as I can. As for finding a nice 1718, I received mine Tuesday. I cleaned and polished it last night. Strings are going on tonight. I'll post some pictures in the next few days Thanks. | ||
PEZ |
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Joined: July 2003 Posts: 3111 Location: Nashville TN. | I would assume it will take serious bucks to make it right. $400 to $600 | ||
TommyK |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 208 Location: Illinois | I've never had one of these bowl backs opened up. If the back access port is opened that should allow enough access to the back of the top to effect some sort of repair. My guess is the bowl has relaxed and the lower bout is pulling the top apart. By clamping and drawing the lower bout 'hips' closer together the gaps can be closed up. If that's possible they gaps can be glued, clamped and the cracks reinforced from the back with cleats. Sounds like a challenge. If the back port were not there, there would be no way to fix the top. | ||
Paul Blanchard |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 1817 Location: Minden, Nebraska | With more than one separated cracks in the wood, it's a repair and refin that will run close to what a new top will cost. I think that the neck is reset as part of that process, so you don't have to spend $200 on that alone. I'm in agreement that this is a job in the $400 - $600 ballpark, depending on whether one wants crack repair and refinished top or a new top altogether. The latter adds the greater resale value. | ||
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