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LBJ
Posted 2007-06-17 5:49 PM (#95616)
Subject: BEAUTIFUL Kevin Ryan for sale


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This guitar is just awesome:
http://cgi.ebay.com/KEVIN-RYAN-ACOUSTIC-GUITAR-BOSNIAN-OLD-BRAZILIA...

i've heard Ryan Nightingale few months ago. It was the best sounding guitar i've ever heard. If this one is actually better then.... i don't know.
I hope someone worthy will buy this guitar.
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gh1
Posted 2007-06-17 7:18 PM (#95617 - in reply to #95616)
Subject: Re: BEAUTIFUL Kevin Ryan for sale


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I've played a friend's Cathedral. Beautiful sounding guitar. However, just a bit out of my price range -- unfortunately. The bevel really added a wonderfully comfortable feel to the body.

I was really nervous playing it. Knowing how expensive it was, i don't know, i was just really worried i'd ding it or something.

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gh1
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Beal
Posted 2007-06-17 8:29 PM (#95618 - in reply to #95616)
Subject: Re: BEAUTIFUL Kevin Ryan for sale



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Location: 6 String Ranch
Yes, it's nice. Another very expensive hand built guitar. 12 large. I think you better really love it because I doubt you'd get all your money back out of it.
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schroeder
Posted 2007-06-18 6:15 AM (#95619 - in reply to #95616)
Subject: Re: BEAUTIFUL Kevin Ryan for sale


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You could get the Lowden of your dreams and a week's vacation and a down payment on a fishing boat for that money. And you would need to be a better guitar player than Al di Meola, Richard Thompson, John McLaughlin or Tommy Emmanuel to tell the difference.

I love that these guitars get made (like Monteleone and Benedetto archtops), but only collectors ever end up buying them. So they never get played properly or regularly and it's all a kind of a waste.

When you think how the luthiers at Martin, Ovation, Lowden, Lakewood can listen to a thousand great guitar players playing their handiwork, what does this guy get to listen to?
What's he got to compare to Fridya Night in San Francisco, Paul Simon, CrosbyStills&Nash, Neil Young, James Taylor (early stuff) - music complicated and simple, but great, great music.

It's all actually pretty pointless.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-06-18 8:36 AM (#95620 - in reply to #95616)
Subject: Re: BEAUTIFUL Kevin Ryan for sale


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Pointless? Well, maybe from the standpoint that few get actually played...but to create such a beautiful guitar (and having owned a Martin w/old growth Brazillian and now a Taylor with Presentation Brazillian, I can tell you it is a very special tonewood...and nearly impossible to find in this grade) is something special. The pointless part of it is never getting to hear it played in the hands of a great player. I wish I could aford it...but then, I have wonderful guitars and my new Adamas is incredible...I can't put it down.
Blessings...
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-06-18 8:59 AM (#95621 - in reply to #95616)
Subject: Re: BEAUTIFUL Kevin Ryan for sale


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Sure it's pointless, and so are a lot of other things that people blow money on. If I had the dough for guitars like this, or ivory tusk toilet seats, bugatti's and rolex watches hell I'd do it to.

As you move up the guitar price scale it's certainly a game of diminishing returns. A $1000. guitar will be significantly better than a $500. guitar. The difference between $10,000. and $5000. gets a lot thinner. At some point you are not paying for a better instrument, you are paying for the right to know you own it.

Dave
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LBJ
Posted 2007-06-18 9:13 AM (#95622 - in reply to #95616)
Subject: Re: BEAUTIFUL Kevin Ryan for sale


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Well.
There is a bunch of REALLY good players playing on Ryan.
Michael Chapdelaine can go head to head with Tommy Emmanuel, and other brilliant players - like Pat Donohue, Laurence Juber or Pierre Bensusan chosen Ryan to play.

Nightingale is a guitar i hope i will finish with. It's the one i would trade all my guitars without second guessing.
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brainslag
Posted 2007-06-18 9:24 AM (#95623 - in reply to #95616)
Subject: Re: BEAUTIFUL Kevin Ryan for sale


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I can' t play well enough to justify it, even if I could afford it. Play your cards right though and they can be a decent investment. I know a guy who bough an Olson like this maybe 16 years ago for 4k, and I called him nuts. Then about 5 years ago someone offered him 10k for it. Who's nuts now?
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-06-18 9:25 AM (#95624 - in reply to #95616)
Subject: Re: BEAUTIFUL Kevin Ryan for sale



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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains
For 12 large, you could also buy the following:

OFC Guitar
Koala Custom
Two more Adamas or high end Ovation models in both 6 and 12 string configurations
The Tak EF75
and a couple of nice amps
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brainslag
Posted 2007-06-18 9:38 AM (#95625 - in reply to #95616)
Subject: Re: BEAUTIFUL Kevin Ryan for sale


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If I had 12 large I'd part with my '94 Tempo... That little bit of info stays right here, guys!!!
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2007-06-18 10:47 AM (#95626 - in reply to #95616)
Subject: Re: BEAUTIFUL Kevin Ryan for sale



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That's a gorgeous guitar! If I were going to spend anywhere near that kind of money, I'd be inclined to buy an Olson. The problem is that it just wouldn't sound good enough in MY hands to justify the expense. :(
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cruster
Posted 2007-06-18 12:14 PM (#95627 - in reply to #95616)
Subject: Re: BEAUTIFUL Kevin Ryan for sale


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Originally posted by brainslag:
I can' t play well enough to justify it, even if I could afford it. Play your cards right though and they can be a decent investment. I know a guy who bough an Olson like this maybe 16 years ago for 4k, and I called him nuts. Then about 5 years ago someone offered him 10k for it. Who's nuts now?
That would be a sterling example of the Greater Fool Theory in action. :p
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2007-06-18 12:51 PM (#95628 - in reply to #95616)
Subject: Re: BEAUTIFUL Kevin Ryan for sale



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I do not get the point of justifying expenses like that.

If you can afford it, and you want to have it - get it. If not, let it be. Who else than yourself do you have to justify that?

I have a lot of guitars, and I give a damn if people were thinking, they are not justified in my hands.
Even if I could rather play three chords on a guitar - I could play these three chords on all of them. And that kind of pleases me. Having them, looking at them - and I am done. Perfect.

Surely there are folks out there who get much more sound out of a 50 $ guitar than I will ever be able to on mine - who cares.

By the way, if I had a golden rolex - did I have to be better than others in reading the time from an armwrist watch to justify it?

Kurt
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brainslag
Posted 2007-06-18 3:29 PM (#95629 - in reply to #95616)
Subject: Re: BEAUTIFUL Kevin Ryan for sale


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If you can afford it, no reason to justify it. Thats why you see Lindsay Lohan smash a 150K Benz into a pole every other week. But I also know a not too well to do family who has another mortgage on the house to so their college age virtuoso violinist daughter can have an exquisit instrument. She is good enough to reap the benefits of something that fine, I am not. If I were filthy rich, I may have more expensive guitars, but I would still suck at playing them so who would care?
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