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stellarjim
Posted 2005-10-07 9:43 PM (#134308)
Subject: Classic LX


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Anyone on the board played this new guitar yet? I keep looking at it and thinking this might be the 1st nylon string to do it for me.

Jim
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-10-07 11:01 PM (#134309 - in reply to #134308)
Subject: Re: Classic LX


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I played one in CT at the gathering. A 1773LX is going to replace my 83 Country Artist in the very near future.
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stellarjim
Posted 2005-10-08 7:55 AM (#134310 - in reply to #134308)
Subject: Re: Classic LX


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Moody, I've heard in the past that Ovations don't really make good classicals because the entire body doesn't vibrate enough. And because of that, they are too weak acoustically. I've personally never played a nylon string Ovation but I know I love the sound of a good nylon string guitar.

So my question is this: Is there any credibility to the comments about the nylon string O's and if so, does the Classic LX address any of these issues?

Thanks.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-10-08 8:52 AM (#134311 - in reply to #134308)
Subject: Re: Classic LX


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If you're going for pure acoustic sound, an Ovation nylon string is not the way to go. Neither is Gibson Chet Atkins CE or an Ovation Viper, or a Cordoba Gypsy King, or any number of nylon strings. A full body Ovation, like the older 1763 Classicals give a good acoustic sound, but not the best acoustic sound.

My first Ovation Nylon string was a 1763. This was a late 80's, deep bowl cutaway classical. I liked the sound very much and it sounded great plugged in. But I was looking for a Country Artist cutaway (1674), because I wanted the additional frets and the narrower neck. The 1763 also had action problems above the 5th fret that couldn't seem to get resolved.

When I found the Country Artist, about 4 years ago, the 1763 got sold. But the Country Artist, with a shallow bowl and the old VT-8 bracing is a bit of a compromise. Ok sound acoustically, great plugged in. And I hate the stacked knob on the waist of the gutiar. It digs into my ribs when I hold it.

The 1773LX seems to address some of these shortcomings. It's got a cedar top, which I think is better for a nylon string. The bowl is the LX bowl, so it's lighter and vibrates more. The bracing is the new scalloped X pattern. IMHO, anything is better than the old VT patterns. It's also 12 frets to the body, which puts the bridge back into the lower bout of the guitar, where it should be with a nylon string (a 12 fretter, by virtue of the placement of the bridge is almost always going to sound better than a 14 fretter of the same type of guitar -- ask StandingO). I love the look of the headstock, and it's got the OP Pro for a better plugged in sound than my old stacked control preamp. And the neck has the width of the Country Artist, but 12 frets to the body like the Classical.

I played one in CT in June and liked it a lot. But it was in a room with a lot of people and a lot of noise around me. It felt right to me, but only time will tell about the acoustic sound. No worse than my Country Artist, but how much better? Some, but I don't know yet how much.
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stellarjim
Posted 2005-10-08 12:03 PM (#134312 - in reply to #134308)
Subject: Re: Classic LX


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Great post Moody. Thanks. I'm looking forward to hearing how you like it when you own it and have some quality time together.
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MWoody
Posted 2005-10-08 2:22 PM (#134313 - in reply to #134308)
Subject: Re: Classic LX



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You know, when Paul launches out one of his well thought out and well spoken soliliques on a specific instrument I can't help but really want one too. Not quite the touch that W2 has but effective all the same.

Must be something like this that gets the lemmings all stirred up!
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stephent28
Posted 2005-10-08 2:26 PM (#134314 - in reply to #134308)
Subject: Re: Classic LX



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Ohhhh....now I see where Woody's post really belongs. (in reference to another thread)
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MWoody
Posted 2005-10-08 3:14 PM (#134315 - in reply to #134308)
Subject: Re: Classic LX



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Sh-h-h-h-h! You were watching.
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Capo Guy
Posted 2005-10-09 6:46 PM (#134316 - in reply to #134308)
Subject: Re: Classic LX



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You know, when Paul launches out one of his well thought out and well spoken soliliques on a specific instrument I can't help but really want one too. Not quite the touch that W2 has but effective all the same.
Me too!!

I've always loved the Country Artist. Not Quite the classical sound but a little lighter. The 1773LX does look interesting. A 12 fret neck will make a nice sounding guitar.
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2005-10-09 7:54 PM (#134317 - in reply to #134308)
Subject: Re: Classic LX


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Yeah!!

What Paul Said...
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Beal
Posted 2005-10-09 8:14 PM (#134318 - in reply to #134308)
Subject: Re: Classic LX



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I always liked listening to Paul. Even the short rants. Didn't make me want a 1624 though. I'm wondering what room I wandered off to during the tour since I've not seen the aLeX version in Nylons (visualize that!) It only makes a ton of sense(sence, cents, sents, you pick the right one) to do that.
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TexasDoc
Posted 2005-10-09 9:57 PM (#134319 - in reply to #134308)
Subject: Re: Classic LX


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Fred, are you ill?

No comment about strings? Nothing about nylon/steel combo? Nothing about "my 1763 with the wider neck sounds great with X brand of strings?" Nothing about how the strings make it sound like you're playing through a megaphone?

You're slipping, Fred. I expected more from you.

:p :D :)
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2005-10-09 10:23 PM (#134320 - in reply to #134308)
Subject: Re: Classic LX


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I had already said in another post awhile back That I thought it would be the easiest guitar on the planet to play with JP Thomastics. I bet it will sound great too!!! Somethin' 'bout those 12 Fret slotheads I dunno.....
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-10-09 11:44 PM (#134321 - in reply to #134308)
Subject: Re: Classic LX


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Jeez Bill... visualizing Al in nylons --- gag puke etc.....
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