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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | I guys. Long time no post, but I'm still up here in the Great White North. After many years of thinking about it and a fortutuitous posting in my neighbourhood, I just bought a Country Artist 1624-4. Judging by the serial # it was built in 1977-78 and it kinda looks it, though pretty good for its age. (much like myself...) It played okay, sounded good, but the electronics weren't working so the price was pretty good. Nothing looks broken. So, I've started taking it apart to see where the issue might be and ran into a snag. I don't know what sort of screw holds the pot knobs on. It doesn't fit anything I've got. What sort of screw head is it? Anyone know?
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Nevermind. Found the right size on the oldest set of allen keys I own. In the bottom of an old tool box. #PackratsRule! :-) |
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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | Best of luck, fillhixx. You are probably opening up a can of worms with that stacked-knob preamp, but go for it, anyway. Over at the Facebook Ren-O-Ovation site, Steve McCormick has done electronics rebuilds, so there's a good source of info & expertise available. Congrats on the snag & great to hear from you, too! |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Okay, think I found the problem.... What I don't know is where the preamp is supposed to be wired in. Anyone got hints? I'm not an electrician but my soldering is darned good for a retired plumber!(not what I actually retired from, but was a plumber builder for a while in younger days.)
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Thanks for the reminder seesquare! Forgot I joined that group...just to be a lookyloo as until right now I've never 'really' worked on my guitars. Will see what happens there. |
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Location: Denmark | Plumbing and analog electronics are more or less the same. Current is a flow and voltage is lifting height/pressure and connections are commonly soldered. You may find useful information at http://ovationtribute.com/Schematics.html as well.
And happy new guitar day. From this far it looks in good shape.
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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | Looks like the output jack is wired directly to the undersaddle pickup. The piezo should be plugged into the preamp can, and there should be a female minijack somewhere on it. There should be 3 wires in the preamp cable to the output jack. One for signal, one for ground, and the last for switching on the battery to power the preamp. The output jack has 3 connections, too (go figure). So, you have to determine which-is-which-wire. The shielding mesh is the ground. I'd bet the signal is probably white & the battery lead is probably red. I reiterate, best-of-luck. Someone appears to have taken some liberties with the integrity of this instrument. There may be issues inside that preamp. |
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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | Addendum: Just reviewed the discussion on Ren-O-Vation. They have covered the issue pretty well. Red & black, apparently- my bad. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Hi guys. Yeah, they're a very helpful bunch at the Ren-O-Vation page. Reminds me of this place back when I first joined. (I mean, still a helpful bunch here and some very good friendships made) tpa, yes I've heard the plumbing >< electrical analogy before but, being a plumber forgot everything that wasn't 'solids go down, gases go up'. ;-) Not completely sure I'll do the wiring myself...though I may just do it just to finish wrecking everything so I have to buy new/rebuilt stuff.... I could use one of the pickup pins for my 1612 that got broken at a gig in the early 80s. . The guitar itself is pretty good as an acoustic. Which was the primary selling point.
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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | Phil, since you probably don't have a board-certified Ovation tech/luthier in your immediate neighborhood, I guess you dive in, or not. Your critter will always have the exemplary acoustics. Fortified sound output is the option. No guts, no glory. The BFLG will support whatever rehab you embark upon! Kinda like slowing down to view the car wreck...... ;-) |
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Location: Upper Left USA | We're behind you all the way! Please don't stop suddenly... |
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