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mdk
Posted 2006-08-27 5:14 PM (#242861)
Subject: completely new to ovations


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here's my question.

i'm just starting to get into fingerstyle guitar (michael hedges, kaki king, justin king, etc.) and i'm considering saving up for an adamas. my current guitar is a gibson b-15 from 1969. (small, all mahogany, not really suited to my slap technique.) right now, i'm thinking of saving up for a 2080. any other recommendations for loud whumping noises and a left hand hanging over the neck?
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-08-27 5:30 PM (#242862 - in reply to #242861)
Subject: Re: completely new to ovations


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U681T ("Ute") If you can work with a 12fret non-cutaway.

I think you'd also have to consider the 1581 original or reissue.

Go to the Lost Art/ Vintage link and take a peek at all the Adamii there.
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Weaser P
Posted 2006-08-27 8:40 PM (#242863 - in reply to #242861)
Subject: Re: completely new to ovations


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The Ute would be a great choice. Not perfect, in my eyes, only because I just can't see myself slapping away at that nice a guitar. That said, the 12 fret gives it a projection that you just gotta hear.

Well, on second thought, maybe it is perfect.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-08-27 8:53 PM (#242864 - in reply to #242861)
Subject: Re: completely new to ovations


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Saw Preston Reed slapping away last night on his Adamas. He has some sort of cover over some of the upper bout sound holes, or maybe they just never were cut in. He also played a box guitar that had an extra pick guard on the upper bout where he slapped it.
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stephent28
Posted 2006-08-28 12:47 AM (#242865 - in reply to #242861)
Subject: Re: completely new to ovations



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You could always ask Adamas to make you a Kaki King model.
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edensharvest
Posted 2006-08-28 1:46 AM (#242866 - in reply to #242861)
Subject: Re: completely new to ovations


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Definitely check out the U681, or the new 1680 Adamas slothead. Both should be right up your alley for style and sound, and both will take a beating a lot better than any box guitars! If you like all the bells & whistles, the 1680 has the new VIP preamp and some other features, for a mere $1000 more...
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alpep
Posted 2006-08-28 8:29 AM (#242867 - in reply to #242861)
Subject: Re: completely new to ovations


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The Adamas is the perfect guitar for this style.
Go for a textured top model. more resonance and more sound.
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Beal
Posted 2006-08-28 8:37 AM (#242868 - in reply to #242861)
Subject: Re: completely new to ovations



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On Preston's the holes were never cut in. Why you want to slap it? You got 10 fingers and that's plenty, or should be.
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cliff
Posted 2006-08-28 9:18 AM (#242869 - in reply to #242861)
Subject: Re: completely new to ovations


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Al;
Y'got any more of those "export" Adamases??

One of those'd be PERFECT for what this guy wants t'do . . .
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Slipkid
Posted 2006-08-28 9:18 AM (#242870 - in reply to #242861)
Subject: Re: completely new to ovations



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When BrianT & I play Pretty Woman I use two fingers to tap out the beat during the intro. The texured Adamas top feels 10 times more drum like than a spruce top. I have to remember to tap lighter with the UTE. I'm afraid I could put my fingers right through the top.
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alpep
Posted 2006-08-28 10:31 AM (#242871 - in reply to #242861)
Subject: Re: completely new to ovations


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Originally posted by cliff:
Al;
Y'got any more of those "export" Adamases??

One of those'd be PERFECT for what this guy wants t'do . . .
Yes
and
Yes
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cliff
Posted 2006-08-28 10:47 AM (#242872 - in reply to #242861)
Subject: Re: completely new to ovations


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mdk;

You needs t'talk to Al about one of these guitars!

Probably the BEST "bang-for-the-buck" Adamas purchase you can make!!
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-08-28 11:07 AM (#242873 - in reply to #242861)
Subject: Re: completely new to ovations


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Preston Reed played a couple songs on a box guitar and tapped the bottom on it. It sounded like tapping a pencil on a desk. When he did the same thing on his Adamas, it sounded like a drum. If you like a full percussion sound, go for the Adamas.
The other thing I noticed was that he spent some time futzing and tuning all the other guitars, but just picked up the Adamas and played it. Go to his website, prestonreed.com and I think you'll be sold on the Adamas.
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JeffreyD
Posted 2006-08-28 11:10 AM (#242874 - in reply to #242861)
Subject: Re: completely new to ovations


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I beg to differ with some of you guys. I have the 2080 and the W597 (mid bowl) and the W597 is much more percussive when tapped or thumped with the thumb than the 2080. The 2080 top feels thicker or more firmly braced for some reason. First time I played the CVT it was more like having a deep tom tom with a trigger on it. Deep, crisp and loud when I use my thumb to whump it up a bit. 2080 doesn't do that very well.

I can't speak to the the deep bowls, but the 597 is even louder than my Ovation 1537 when it comes to drumming and slapping the top.
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JeffreyD
Posted 2006-08-28 11:12 AM (#242875 - in reply to #242861)
Subject: Re: completely new to ovations


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P.S. and yes, you could call it rather self-serving since I am selling a W597, but before writing it off as biased in one direction or another, try finger tapping or thumping a CVT and compare it to the deeper bowls at least. It beats my 2080 but I have not done this with the Ute or any of the true deep bowl Adamii. Only making my point about the 2080.
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Slipkid
Posted 2006-08-28 12:02 PM (#242876 - in reply to #242861)
Subject: Re: completely new to ovations



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The deep bowl UTE is the only Adamas I have ever "thumped" on.
My comparison experience is with an AD-II.
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