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Location: Upper Left USA | Talk about Strats and Tele's lead me to the Warmoth site. Seeing all the options for building guitars I asked them if there would be any Breadwinner/Deacon bodies opted.
Greg Stewart responded:
Not anytime soon. Thanks.
Whether Proprietary or license or whatever I would love to see either a "Kit" market or better still a Hamer Redo! Any thoughts, history or facts? |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Steve Klein would probably sue them. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | If I remember correctly he was the design artist on the shape. Is he unwilling to consign/relist it's use. Seems to me it should be approached.
You can only make commission on a moving product. I think it would grab a good deal of market.
But then again I've been hanging around a bunch of Ovation Nuts and my view may be a little skewed. |
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Location: south east Michigan | Any type of a re-issue would also bring attention to the vintage models out there. |
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Location: Midland, MI | Bring back the Deacon!
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Location: Scotland | Originally posted by MWoody:
If I remember correctly he was the design artist on the shape.
Hardly. When he introduced his "revolutionary" guitar Klein ripped-off Ovation's 25+ year-old concept of an ergonomically-designed instrument & he still consistently refuses to acknowledge that the Ovation Breadwiner/Deacon was a major influence on his totally derivative guitar. Cross a Breadwinner with a Steinberger and you have a Klein.
http://www.kleinelectricguitars.com/Klein/ |
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Location: Upper Left USA | So as a result of a lawsuit there is a "hold" on anyone using the BW/Deacon shape?
More reasons to make them in China... |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Also:
Vintage Guitar Article
It’s interesting to note that luthier Steve Klein introduced a guitar that got a lot of press in the early ’80s with a body virtually identical to the Ovation Breadwinner. According to Charles’ son (and future president of Kaman Corporation), Bill Kaman, Jr., Ovation considered “pointing this out” (i.e., legal action), but given its bad track record with solidbodies, figured it wasn’t worth the effort. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | there's no hold and no reason to. There's no market for it either (a minor point) other than the 5 or 10 they might sell to OFC members. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Back to recycling on Ebay. :confused: |
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Location: Midland, MI | Originally posted by cwk2:
there's no hold and no reason to. There's no market for it either (a minor point) other than the 5 or 10 they might sell to OFC members.
So, you're saying they won't pull out the tooling to sell a dozen $351 guitars to the likes of us? Man...that's cold.
;)
In seriousness, I would add that there may not be a market for them now, but all it takes is one of those bubblegum top-40 groups to breakout playing a Breadweiner...maybe we should petition the Ovation marketroids to acquire some vintage examples, identify a likely band and then 'sponsor' them. :) |
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Location: Midland, MI | And the Klein's, while similar in shape to a BWeiner, are definitely not as pleasing to the eye...IM!HO. |
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Location: NJ | I have played the klein and I have to admit it is a wonderful guitar. I would love to own one but they don't seem to come up for sale too often or cheap. I have a couple of steinberger necks laying around maybe I neeed to get someone to build me a body. |
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Location: Midland, MI | Originally posted by alpep:
I have played the klein and I have to admit it is a wonderful guitar. I would love to own one but they don't seem to come up for sale too often or cheap. I have a couple of steinberger necks laying around maybe I neeed to get someone to build me a body.
Try Ed Roman.
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Location: NJ | ed would build me a body but i am not sure I can deal with him. |
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Location: Midland, MI | Oh, come now, Al, you deal with us here every day, and we have to be far, far worse than anything the man who is single-handedly saving the hand-built, high-quality, MadeInTheUSA(tm) guitar industry can throw at you!
:)
I should note that I don't know Ed Roman, have never met him, nor done business with him. I have, however read every one of his 'rants.' I'm just having a little fun...actually, some of the guitars he has on his site don't look bad. Maybe when I'm out there next week I should stop in and see them in person. |
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Location: NJ | I had ONE business deal with Mr. Roman.
that was all it took. |
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Location: NJ | WHO are you guys talking about?? . . . . |
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Location: NJ | ed roman guitars now in Las Vegas NV |
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Location: Midland, MI | He has a 'colorful' history, from what I gather. You can check out his website here and make sure you read his rants. They're...entertaining. :) |
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