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unbrok3npp
Posted 2007-06-07 7:20 PM (#96502)
Subject: a couple random guitar questions...


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Location: upstate ny
these arent ovation specefic...just a few questions.

1. is a humidifier necessary? If so, what is a reliable one to purchase?(I am getting a celbrity deluxe)

2. what is the benefits of different gauge strings??


thanks. and sorry for the stupid questions.
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Beal
Posted 2007-06-07 7:32 PM (#96503 - in reply to #96502)
Subject: Re: a couple random guitar questions...



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Location: 6 String Ranch
Don't need a humidiofier in NY.
Switch to medium strings to be a true blewgrasser, otherwise stay with the lights.
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-06-07 7:32 PM (#96504 - in reply to #96502)
Subject: Re: a couple random guitar questions...


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Location: Phoenix AZ
Guitars with a lot of wood, braces and glue should be kept in 30-60 % humidity. The less wood, braces, and glue your guitar is made of the less you have to worry about it. Dave
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Capo Guy
Posted 2007-06-07 7:51 PM (#96505 - in reply to #96502)
Subject: Re: a couple random guitar questions...



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Location: East Tennessee
Where in upstate N.Y.?

I didn't bother to answer your questions since the previous posts said it all. :cool:
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unbrok3npp
Posted 2007-06-07 8:03 PM (#96506 - in reply to #96502)
Subject: Re: a couple random guitar questions...


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Location: upstate ny
thanks for the answers.

im from schoharie...about 40 minutes from albany
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Weaser P
Posted 2007-06-07 10:19 PM (#96507 - in reply to #96502)
Subject: Re: a couple random guitar questions...


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Location: Bluffton, SC
Just outside Syracuse here and, while I do pay a little attention (I little is all I have) to the humidity level, I've never had a problem with any guitar - wood or Ovation. Just go to Home Depot or Lowe's, get a $15 hygrometer and look at it every couple of days. You should be fine but that $15 will save you a world of worry.

On the strings, general rule is the heavier, the thicker the tone. The lighter, the easier to play. See cwk's post above.
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unbrok3npp
Posted 2007-06-07 10:33 PM (#96508 - in reply to #96502)
Subject: Re: a couple random guitar questions...


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Location: upstate ny
what is the best/your favorite brand of strings? As far as electric goes ive always stuck to elixers...are the acoustic elixers good??
thanks!
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FlySig
Posted 2007-06-07 10:40 PM (#96509 - in reply to #96502)
Subject: Re: a couple random guitar questions...



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You'll get a lot of different opinions on strings. The best plan of attack is to buy about 6 or so different brands and try each for a few weeks to see which you like best.

On my daughter's Ovation Elite T, the Martin Marquis Phosphor Bronze sound great.

I do not like the sound of 80/20 strings on any of my acoustics. They are far too "brassy" for my tastes.
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-06-07 10:41 PM (#96510 - in reply to #96502)
Subject: Re: a couple random guitar questions...


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Location: Phoenix AZ
d'addario EJ-16's.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-06-07 10:42 PM (#96511 - in reply to #96502)
Subject: Re: a couple random guitar questions...


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Do a search for strings. You'll get pages of opinions.
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fugot
Posted 2007-06-07 10:43 PM (#96512 - in reply to #96502)
Subject: Re: a couple random guitar questions...


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Location: boulder
east coast huh, buy a humidity meter-as long as you are in the 40-65% range -you are ok. It is not that one percent is better then another, it is more you want to limit the swings in humidity( and temperature). remember the bowl is inert, the top is wood. So one contracts/expands while the other won't. In the summer the wood swells- in the winter (with the heat on) the wood shrinks.
I run a $40 humidifier with a % gauge in my "music" room. I fill it up once a week in summer and every two days in winter (In colorado).
Strings--real men use the heaviest gauge possible-I use medium lites -and really-just go to webstrings.com and buy them cheap. EXACTLY like car tires-most all the brand names are built at the same factory, with different names and prices put on later.(I might not be 100% correct-but I think I am).
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ignimbyte
Posted 2007-06-07 10:53 PM (#96513 - in reply to #96502)
Subject: Re: a couple random guitar questions...


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Location: Hicksville, NY
Originally from outside of Syracuse [just like Weaser P] and now residing in the Long Island area, a humidifier is not needed in the summer time. In the late fall, when the heat begins to provide warmth in the home, a humidifier such as Dampit will get the job done. If you have a guitar with a center soundhole, the one that rests in between the D and G strings by Planet Waves will do just fine. Both the dampit and PWs gets filled about once a week. I stop using them between mid-April and Early May ... just have a feel for the environment as the outdoor temperatures get warmer. I have forced air heat, which dries up my home environment, so a humidifier is necessary.

See Weaser's and cwk's posts about strings. As far as brands are concerned, it's all just a matter of personal preference. I personally use D'addario EXP lights [12s], for I happen to be the type who change strings once every 2 1/2 - 4 months. I started on custom lights [11s] cos they're gentler on my fingers, and upgraded to 12s later.

My suggestion is to try different brands and types of strings, and see what best suits your taste and preference. Good luck.
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unbrok3npp
Posted 2007-06-07 10:53 PM (#96514 - in reply to #96502)
Subject: Re: a couple random guitar questions...


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wow. the strings on webstrings are incredibly cheap....so they sound good? have you compared them to other brands? that price seems too good to be true...but supposedly they supply a lot of pros...
hmm..I guess it cant hurt to try em out!

whats the difference between 80/20 and phospher?

thanks for all the opinions!
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ignimbyte
Posted 2007-06-07 11:00 PM (#96515 - in reply to #96502)
Subject: Re: a couple random guitar questions...


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Unless my ears are playing tricks on me, 80/20 strings sound better with my one and only Ovation, while phosphor bronze suits my Ms.
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unbrok3npp
Posted 2007-06-07 11:09 PM (#96516 - in reply to #96502)
Subject: Re: a couple random guitar questions...


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Location: upstate ny
maybe ill just try both...
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Yak
Posted 2007-06-08 12:49 AM (#96517 - in reply to #96502)
Subject: Re: a couple random guitar questions...


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Location: Reno, NV
Originally posted by unbrok3npp:


whats the difference between 80/20 and phospher?

Phosphor is warmer and more mellow than 80/20's. 80/20 are bright and "brassy".... lots of zing.

Color wise 80/20 is bright yellow like brass or gold. Phosphors look more like copper.

My favorites are:
1. Martin MSP4100 Phosphor Bronze 12-54.
2. D'addario EJ16 12-53
3. Dean Markley Alchemy LT 11-52
4. Martin Marquis 80/20 Light

Least Favorite:
1. DR Rare Light
2. D'addario EXP16
3. Elixir Nanoweb light
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-06-08 1:01 AM (#96518 - in reply to #96502)
Subject: Re: a couple random guitar questions...



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Way back when I first visited here, I asked the "which strings" question.
You can do a search, you will get many answers...
But the most popular answer, and winner by consensus...

D'Addario EJ16 :cool:
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-06-08 1:36 AM (#96519 - in reply to #96502)
Subject: Re: a couple random guitar questions...



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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia
Originally posted by Tupperware:
d'addario EJ-16's.
!!!!16s!!!

What? Do you have thumbs for fingers!
Can you twist the tops off non-twist bottles?
Do you play bass?
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2007-06-08 1:52 AM (#96520 - in reply to #96502)
Subject: Re: a couple random guitar questions...


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Location: Orange County, California
EJ-16's are a .012"-.053" light gauge set.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2007-06-08 5:35 AM (#96521 - in reply to #96502)
Subject: Re: a couple random guitar questions...


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I've really gotten to like the Elixir med/lights (12-56)
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an4340
Posted 2007-06-08 9:21 AM (#96522 - in reply to #96502)
Subject: Re: a couple random guitar questions...


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As I always say the free strings are the best. I like Dean Markleys and Daddario's the best, if I must pay for them.

And I really don't care for coated strings, but if they're free I'll take them.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-06-08 9:32 AM (#96523 - in reply to #96502)
Subject: Re: a couple random guitar questions...



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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains
I recall a previous post with which I am now finding myself increasingly agreeing. I prefer whatever strings are free. I bought a dozen Adamas sets about a year ago and have used at least half of them. Now the pile of extra sets is at least two dozen strong, of several varieties, and I haven't purchased any of them (other than the remaining Adamas sets). They just seem to show up with other stuff (reunion, purchases from Al, freebies, etc).
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brainslag
Posted 2007-06-08 9:47 AM (#96524 - in reply to #96502)
Subject: Re: a couple random guitar questions...


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Yes, free is good. Or whatever is on sale. With a bunch of guitars to change, and no studio recording, most of the bronze wound strings sound close enough to each other to not justify dropping 15 bucks a set every couple of months for each guitar. I never even thought about humidity until I started on this board. In CT its warm & humid in the summer, cold and dry in the winter. Never used a humidifier, and none of my guitars has a problem. (my '84 CL :D )
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