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Location: Scotland | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Interesting. Then I guess the question becomes, how do we talk O into machine bone saddles like the ones Bill just discussed?
Bone saddles on an Ovation pickup? Would the average consumer accept the relatively huge increase in cost over the molded plastic saddle? I have the very expensive handmade bone saddle on my very expensive custom-made Folkore and while I know it makes a difference, nobody else is even aware of it, and why the hell should they be? I've been gigging with a cheap, shitty, off-the-shelf, imported MOB for best part of a year. It sounds great with a slide & the girls in the audiences just love it. I've had more people at gigs ask me about the MOB than any other instrument I use. Go figure.
An acoustic guitar is a poor communicator, it can be drowned-out by a handful of people having a conversation. An electric-acoustic, even the best of them, produces nothing but a vague analog of the true tone. So please, let's not get too precious about the little details, the guitars without the bone saddles, owned by you mere mortals, sound just fine.
The guitar press has it's own agendas, and frankly I could not care less about anything any of the magazines have to say about Ovation, Taylor, Martin or anybody else. I personaly use my hands and ears to make my own decisions. The reason I play a custom-made Ovation with a handmade bone saddle AND a cheap shitty MOB is because they both do exactly what I need them to do, not what some guitar magazine hack with a Brazillian rosewood fetish tells me they should do. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Perhaps the Bone Saddles (Bone Daddy II) could be the OFC separator? :cool: |
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Location: San Bernardino, California | I was wondering if ceramic saddles would work (instead of bone). |
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Location: East Tennessee | Hi,
Couldn't resist jumping in on this one. I've played a $6,000 Martin and $500 ones. No consistancy. Most Martins will sound good in about 20 years but who wants to wait that long. Most Ovations made in the late 70's /early 80's were consistantly excellent sounding guitars.
Also the Ovation nylons were ahead of their time and have a nice sound. Try and buy a Country Artist on ebay. be prepared to pay.
I close with this, What kind of bone are we talking about, Ham, Chicken or "Where's The Beef?
Keep Your Taylor I'll pick my Ovation 12 string any day. |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | For me, the sonic difference between bone and plastic is not worth the price differential. If you test it, I'm sure you'll find it the same. |
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Location: Chicagoland | "Acoustic Guitar magazine hates Ovation, as do most of its readership, so why is this a surprise????"
That's intresting, since I have a 1995 aucostic guitar magazine in front of me with Ovation on the cover and a feature story inside.
How things change... |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | might point out that we are a VERY particular guitar market, and any company depending on us for survival would have a short Chapter 11 like life. Ovation has to tap into the McDonalds crowd to keep the dollars coming in just like Martin has with their plywood wonders and most other major brands. Only difference, Ovations cheap models have been pretty well designed and made. Survival has allowed them to now get back into the quality market that we love and I predict Ovation will be given some awards for excellence in the next few years. |
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Location: Chicagoland | "Only difference, Ovations cheap models have been pretty well designed and made."
As the owner of a Celeb and an Elite, I can say that the cheap models are VERY well made. |
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