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Slipkid
Posted 2009-05-16 8:53 PM (#415537 - in reply to #415512)
Subject: Re: Jim Croce



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I can't beleive the turn this thread has taken.
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fillhixx
Posted 2009-05-16 8:58 PM (#415538 - in reply to #415512)
Subject: Re: Jim Croce



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Welcome Ultra.....maybe you should donate them to the Bottom Feeders Luthier Guild then? (I'm not a member, so not touting my own cause...) Some of them might love your challenge!
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bvince
Posted 2009-05-16 9:00 PM (#415539 - in reply to #415512)
Subject: Re: Jim Croce



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Well no matter WHAT he played early on, as I see it he finally discovered the best guitar in his last days. (:
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fillhixx
Posted 2009-05-16 9:00 PM (#415540 - in reply to #415512)
Subject: Re: Jim Croce



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Originally posted by Slipkid:
I can't beleive the turn this thread has taken.
New here?

I'm surprised it took this long!
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-05-16 9:30 PM (#415541 - in reply to #415512)
Subject: Re: Jim Croce
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I'll give you that a Martin is a more fragile guitar than an Ovation. It's also a hell of a lot lighter weight. So has anyone considered that maybe if Jim had been carrying a Martin instead of the Ovation maybe the plane would have been just light enough to clear the trees and not crash. Maybe the "famous" Ovation is actually responsible for the crash!
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GaryB
Posted 2009-05-16 10:06 PM (#415542 - in reply to #415512)
Subject: Re: Jim Croce


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Maybe the "famous" Ovation is actually responsible for the crash!
Nah.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-05-16 10:06 PM (#415543 - in reply to #415512)
Subject: Re: Jim Croce
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I can't believe that no one has yet asked the obvious question: What strings were on that 'O'?
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gulfcoast
Posted 2009-05-16 10:10 PM (#415544 - in reply to #415512)
Subject: Re: Jim Croce


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This place just seems to bring out the best in people.
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fillhixx
Posted 2009-05-17 1:00 AM (#415545 - in reply to #415512)
Subject: Re: Jim Croce



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Nah, they were already good when they got here.
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Guitarzannie
Posted 2009-05-17 5:34 PM (#415546 - in reply to #415512)
Subject: Re: Jim Croce


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Originally posted by Gallerinski:
I also found it interesting in some of the videos that although the Legends were A/E in quite a few cases Jim and Maury didn't plug them in, they used mics. Or maybe they were doing a milli vanilli ?
I noticed that too. In all of the vids on the "Have You Heard Jim Croce Live" both Ovations and Martins were miked at the sound hole.

IMHO, the Ovations sounded great while the Martins he used sounded really dead, especially on "Speedball Tucker" and "Roller Derby Queen".

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AussieJames
Posted 2009-05-17 9:07 PM (#415547 - in reply to #415512)
Subject: Re: Jim Croce



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Originally posted by bvince:
Back to the original question of where "the guitar" is at ... I believe it WAS on display at the family restaurant in San Diego where his wife Ingrid lives. Here's a link to the Croce's site where there is a background story on him and the fam.

Croce\'s
I had a night in San Diego in March and didn't
know about Croce's Restaurant, I would have checked it out!!

AJ
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Jim A
Posted 2009-05-19 11:35 PM (#415548 - in reply to #415512)
Subject: Re: Jim Croce


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I attended Villanova University many, many years after Jim Croce but there are still great memories everywhere about his life and music, lots of photos, etc. and some archives too I believe. Don McLean was a Villanova alum too.
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dcwill
Posted 2009-05-20 12:05 AM (#415549 - in reply to #415512)
Subject: Re: Jim Croce


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Don McLean attended Villanova for a while but later graduated from Iona, IIRC. He credits that education for his business savvy (the smarts to retain his publishing rights under great pressure to swap them for his first record deal, for example). In fact, I believe he was ultimately awarded an honorary doctorate from Iona.
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Jim A
Posted 2009-05-21 2:41 PM (#415550 - in reply to #415512)
Subject: Re: Jim Croce


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cool... :cool:

I have a few Croce and McLean songs on my iPhone somewhere between Led Zepplin and Keith Urban.

Happy Memorial Day Weekend to all!!!!!
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Country Artist
Posted 2010-02-08 11:01 PM (#415551 - in reply to #415512)
Subject: Re: Jim Croce



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Jim Croce is still my favorite Ovation artist.

Unfortunately the Ovation Croce model will never be.

:confused:
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Country Artist
Posted 2010-02-08 11:02 PM (#415552 - in reply to #415512)
Subject: Re: Jim Croce



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Double post.
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Beal
Posted 2010-02-09 7:55 AM (#415553 - in reply to #415512)
Subject: Re: Jim Croce



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should be
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Jeff W.
Posted 2010-02-09 8:54 AM (#415554 - in reply to #415512)
Subject: Re: Jim Croce


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I saw Croce buying a Snapple and SlimJim at a QuikCheck in Weehawken, just last year.
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Norseman1
Posted 2010-02-09 10:17 AM (#415555 - in reply to #415512)
Subject: Re: Jim Croce


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....throughout the intricate, complex, mind bending melodies of his acoustical arrangements...Croce's music had a simple, honest, and down to earth tone that every man can identify with...he was beyond his years in composition and didn't even know it...and didn't really care...he was just being and saying and singing and sharing who he was.

That's my take on Jim Croce...what a talent.

Norse(I always have a Croce CD in the car for long drives, or when I'm feeling a bit melancholy)man1
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2010-02-09 10:30 AM (#415556 - in reply to #415512)
Subject: Re: Jim Croce


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Jeff, what did a 66 year old Croce look like?
I was going to ditto Serge's post but he did it himself. I play 3 or 4 Croce tunes every time I pick up a guitar and, Norse, he just happened to be in the cd player on the way in this morning.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2010-02-09 10:45 AM (#415557 - in reply to #415512)
Subject: Re: Jim Croce


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Darkbar
Posted 2010-02-09 10:45 AM (#415558 - in reply to #415512)
Subject: Re: Jim Croce



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FlySig
Posted 2010-02-09 11:12 AM (#415559 - in reply to #415512)
Subject: Re: Jim Croce



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Most likely the guitar was in the rear cargo compartment, not in the main passenger compartment. The tail section usually suffers the least damage and the lowest G forces in a crash.

Sometimes it is G force that kills people in crashes, sometimes it is blunt force trauma. The drivers up front are subjected to the highest G forces in the crash as the front of the aircraft absorbs energy. As the front crumples, the front row occupants are likely to be subjected to impact trauma with the aircraft, especially head impact with the side window or glare shield.

The human can only survive a small amount of G force, whereas a guitar can survive a lot more.

I remember my beloved Alvarez-Yiari 12 string falling off of a stage, about a 5 foot fall, shortly after purchasing it in high school. It was in the hard shell case near the edge of the stage standing upright when someone bumped it off. It tipped off the stage and landed on a top corner of the case (headstock area), then bounced on it's side.

No damage to the guitar and only a very minor ding to the case. Had that been a human wearing a helmet landing on his head it would have caused serious damage.
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Meuti
Posted 2010-02-09 3:39 PM (#415560 - in reply to #415512)
Subject: Re: Jim Croce


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+1 on Norseman's posting!
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