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Mark in Boise
Posted 2014-10-15 2:48 PM (#495003)
Subject: guitar room


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I looked at a few old threads on our music rooms/man caves or whatever, but didn't find anything specific to my question. We are about to move and I will close the man cave in the basement and move my guitars and amps into a bonus room above the garage in the new (to us) house. It's plenty large, so I'm thinking about hanging all the guitars on one wall. Since the ceiling is a bit higher than the one I had in the basement, I'm thinking about hanging them in two layers, but I know there won't be enough room to hang one right below the other. For those of you, like Damon, that have hangers above and below, what do you find is the ideal spacing between the top row of hangers, allowing for the bottom row to have space for the head and neck of the bottom row? I plan on putting up two rows of boards to screw the hangers into, so I won't have to put the hangers into the studs spaced 16 inches apart.
Obviously, I can figure this out for myself, but copying you guys is easier and you might post some pictures. Also, if I can get all the guitars on one wall with room left over, I can add more hangers for more guitars. I am also considering a stand to go on the floor, possibly just for 4 or 5 electrics, but I may need the floor space for amps. I'm still struggling with where to put all the cases, too. I'm already missing my basement with the store room next to the guitar room.
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Slipkid
Posted 2014-10-15 3:16 PM (#495994 - in reply to #495003)
Subject: Re: guitar room



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Having enough guitars, cases, and amps to cause an issue with their storage .... is a good problem to have !!!
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Standingovation
Posted 2014-10-15 4:33 PM (#495997 - in reply to #495003)
Subject: Re: guitar room



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30 or 36 inches on center.
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Damon67
Posted 2014-10-15 6:34 PM (#496004 - in reply to #495003)
Subject: Re: guitar room



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The pic is distorted a bit because it's one of those panorama things and the top row is sorta cut off, but here...

For the side walls of my little guitar cubby:

On center, my String Swing hangers are 22.5" apart. The top row hangers are 75" from the floor (centered at the yoke that holds the headstock/neck). The bottom row is at 56" from the floor. There's enough room for a 2x12 combo amp underneath a guitar hanging on the bottom row. I have a Carvin Belair and a Vox 2X12 and a few others under mine.

The back row is a bit different because I have the Flying V on a horizontal mount.



Edited by Damon67 2014-10-15 6:38 PM
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2014-10-16 12:20 PM (#496013 - in reply to #495003)
Subject: Re: guitar room


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Thanks, guys. I have 4 or 5 of the angled Hercules hangers that I'll use starting from a corner and maybe leave space for another one or two. I may be able to go a little higher than 75 inches for the top row. The ceiling is gabled just a little bit, so I can't go very close to the ceiling. I like Damon's color scheme, but we just had the whole house repainted all the same color. I should have had them paint one wall red. Maybe someday. There will be an entertainment center in the middle and I may run the boards for the guitar hangers behind that, so they will be there if we move the entertainment center. I'll take pictures when I'm done. Then I start on the 4 car garage. Those are my two rooms in this house.
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Damon67
Posted 2014-10-16 2:06 PM (#496016 - in reply to #495003)
Subject: Re: guitar room



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"Bonus room above the garage" "4 car garage" "Those are my two rooms in the house"

Mark, you've been bamboozled. You actually have NO rooms IN the house.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2014-10-16 2:54 PM (#496017 - in reply to #495003)
Subject: Re: guitar room


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I saw a cartoon recently, that said basically, "If the man gets a man cave, what does the woman get?" "The rest of the house." We're actually downsizing from a house with a big yard, pool, 5-car garage and partial basement. The garage and basement are mine and I can't believe some smart guy hasn't bought the house just for those assets. The newer house still has a pretty big garage, over 1100 square feet, and the bonus room is pretty big and it's the only room on the second floor. It also has a bathroom and small closet. I like the separation of "my" space from "her" space. I've been married for 37 years, so I've been bamboozled a lot and I just try to make the most of it.
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Waskel
Posted 2014-10-16 5:46 PM (#496020 - in reply to #495003)
Subject: Re: guitar room



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In my 36 years of marriage, 20-some different houses, "my" room always seems to be the room that they didn't include when they built the house...


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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2014-10-17 3:28 AM (#496024 - in reply to #495003)
Subject: Re: guitar room



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<p>483mm. 19,015748". Everything else is absolutely wrong. Best regards, Kurt</p>

Edited by Koenig Kurt 2014-10-17 3:29 AM
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2014-10-17 11:00 AM (#496031 - in reply to #495003)
Subject: Re: guitar room


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Nice, Kurt, but I don't think I have quite enough ceiling height for 3 rows and my tape measure isn't accurate to the millionth. My eyes are so bad I can hardly read the inch markers. I wonder if they make tape measures with "senior font".
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DanSavage
Posted 2014-10-17 11:27 AM (#496032 - in reply to #496031)
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Mark in Boise - 2014-10-17 9:00 AM
I wonder if they make tape measures with "senior font".


Yes, they do.





Edited by DanSavage 2014-10-17 11:28 AM

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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2014-10-17 12:35 PM (#496036 - in reply to #495003)
Subject: Re: guitar room



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I think we can call this problem solved.

Now for the cases: Dress up, go out for a drink and run into someone. A women, for example. Ask if she has a dry cellar (you see, we're heading somewhere else as you thought in the first place). If so, buy her some drinks. Then ask her if she could store some guitar cases for you.

That's what I did, and it worked. My 25-30 guitar cases now live at my ladyfriend's house in a humidity controlled cellar. Because she got anxious it could get moist or wet.

Good luck, have fun,
Kurt
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2014-10-20 10:49 AM (#497101 - in reply to #495003)
Subject: Re: guitar room


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They ran out of carpet before they finished "my" room last week, so I didn't get a chance to get started this weekend. Kurt, I'm glad your plan worked for you, but I've found that lady friends are really expensive and cellars here are rare. I've got a perfectly good one now (cellar), but it's for sale and as a friend says, "downsizing means I have to get rid of all my s**t." If I run out of room, I can store the cases in the garage and there's a bunch of wasted attic space on both sides my room.
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nerdydave
Posted 2014-10-20 12:34 PM (#497106 - in reply to #495003)
Subject: Re: guitar room


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Some lady friends are cheaper than others and still have the same quality! Some want nothing more than a faucet fixed from time to time and revel in playing guitar with their friends!
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2014-10-20 5:32 PM (#497117 - in reply to #497106)
Subject: Re: guitar room


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nerdydave - 2014-10-20 11:34 AM

Some lady friends are cheaper than others and still have the same quality! Some want nothing more than a faucet fixed from time to time and revel in playing guitar with their friends!

Must be a Utah thing.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2014-10-21 3:12 PM (#497130 - in reply to #495003)
Subject: Re: guitar room



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Mark, I just started hanging them where I could find room between the neon signs and other vintage guitar paraphernalia. Once all four walls were totally covered, I hung them from the ceiling using hangers of my own making. They have to be very rugged to endure the occasional bonk when the entire band shows up for practice. My preference is to hang them on an angle, almost as in a natural playing position.
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muzza
Posted 2014-10-23 3:47 AM (#497189 - in reply to #496013)
Subject: Re: guitar room



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Mark in Boise - 2014-10-17 4:20 AM I like Damon's color scheme

You're not alone...

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standing
Posted 2014-10-24 3:22 PM (#497242 - in reply to #495003)
Subject: Re: guitar room



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I have limited room/wall-space in my cave, but I really wanted to keep as many guitars out and handy as possible, so I went with a different approach (photo below.) It works well for me, the hangers are highly-adjustable for spacing, angle, distance from the wall etc. (they come in different lengths also.)

One potential downside; if you put the guitars too close together, you have to take a little more care not to bang them together when taking them down/putting them up.

I've had this setup for several years and have been very happy with it:

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Mark in Boise
Posted 2014-10-27 12:12 PM (#497331 - in reply to #495003)
Subject: Re: guitar room


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The carpet was finally done this weekend and we started moving in. I took about a dozen guitars over and put them in closets for now. Then we moved in an entertainment center and set it up. That took all of Saturday. I have 11 feet left on one side of the entertainment center and 4 feet on the other, so I bought enough boards to put two rows on the 11 foot side and one on the 4 foot side. They will be painted to match the wall, mostly because we have paint left over. I'll put the angled Hercules hangers on the short side and the Swing Strings on the other side. I might even have some space left so I can try to convince SWMBO that I need a couple more guitars to fill in the space, although I haven't quite calculated this out yet. I'll do it as I go, with the top board first and see how the guitars fit before I put up the lower board.
She doesn't like guitars sitting on stands because they are too hard to vacuum around. I may have to start vacuuming to keep her happy. I'd prefer to have them of the floor, too, just to keep them from getting knocked over, but that hasn't been a problem in the current man cave. I also liked having all the 12 fretters on the same row, but I don't know if they'll fit in the 4 foot space with the angled hangers. I also like separating the electrics from the acoustics, but don't know if I can do that. SWMBO likes them all on one wall, rather than in 4 different groups like I had in the man cave. This wall is 25 feet long, so it shouldn't be a problem, but the entertainment center takes up about 10 feet of that. I took a couple of "before" pictures and hope to finally post some pics as this progresses. I should make moving less of a pain and since it's taking a long time to sell our current house, I have lots of time to work on it. Unfortunately, I've hardly touched a guitar lately except to carry it in the case.
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Darkbar
Posted 2014-10-27 12:39 PM (#497332 - in reply to #495003)
Subject: Re: guitar room



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I saw a youtube of Vince Gill's guitar room, and he has drawers that are plush inside like a guitar case, that pull out and hold one guitar each....very cool.
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dvd
Posted 2014-10-27 2:12 PM (#497336 - in reply to #495003)
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Mark, maybe you should just do it Miles-style, with all the shipping boxes lined up with one end open.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2014-10-27 2:42 PM (#497337 - in reply to #495003)
Subject: Re: guitar room


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Both good ideas. Behind the guitar wall is attic space that has access from the garage below. I've been trying to make storage room out of it and assume there's similar space on the other side of the room, but with no access from below. When SWMBO complained that my guitar cases were taking up all of one closet and part of another (actually, I complained that she was putting her stuff in "my" closet) I suggested we punch a hole in the wall and see if we can come up with storage space behind there. Any logical person would have said there's no way we would cut holes in a wall that we just paid to paint, but SWMBO suggested we bring the cabinet guy back to do it. Owning two houses has me concerned about finances, but I'll keep triack of ideas for later. I was thinking of something between Miles and Vince Gill, with closet doors that would open to reveal shelves with guitar cases side by side.
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nerdydave
Posted 2014-10-27 7:03 PM (#497343 - in reply to #495003)
Subject: Re: guitar room


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I married a woman who doesn't vacuum so that is not an issue. She does, however, take issue with my leaving antique popsicle sticks around the house in plain view. She feels they should be kept safely in the vault where they belong.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2014-10-29 2:10 PM (#497413 - in reply to #495003)
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The challenge now is to try to mount a 10-foot board on the wall by myself. I did the measuring and figuring last night and then called it a night. Doing it myself will probably be easier than getting my wife to help and being critiqued through the whole process instead of just at the end.
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nerdydave
Posted 2014-10-29 11:46 PM (#497435 - in reply to #495003)
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And to think that all these years I have been laboring under the delusion that God created woman to be a helpmate to man! Don't accept any apples which she might offer you.
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