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nonis
Posted 2006-09-01 4:13 PM (#242110)
Subject: I'm pretty new to theory, but...


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Is this a key that anyone knows of?
e, g, a, a#, b, c, d
It has four half steps in a row... not any kind of key I know of. But, a song that I've been learning seems to be in this key, and it sounds good.
The song is Dregs by Joey Eppard, available for listen and download at purevolume.com/joeyeppard . Maybe I'm wrong, but I figured someone here would have an answer.
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schroeder
Posted 2006-09-01 7:42 PM (#242111 - in reply to #242110)
Subject: Re: I'm pretty new to theory, but...


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When you get 4 in a row at least 2 of them are accidentals.
Kinda like large families.
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72tour
Posted 2006-09-01 8:04 PM (#242112 - in reply to #242110)
Subject: Re: I'm pretty new to theory, but...


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The only theory I know is Frank Zappas "Big Note Theory." I stand by that theory as well :D
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Old Tele man
Posted 2006-09-02 4:19 PM (#242113 - in reply to #242110)
Subject: Re: I'm pretty new to theory, but...


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in Em the note degrees would be:

E = Root
G = b3 or minor
A = 4
A# = b5
B = 5
C = #5
D = 7 (dominant-7th, not Major-7th)

...sorta looks like pentatonic minor Em7-5 or half-dimished.
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muzza
Posted 2006-09-03 6:15 AM (#242114 - in reply to #242110)
Subject: Re: I'm pretty new to theory, but...



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Could be walking up from the G to the C?

Is that what you mean by 'accidentals'?
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2006-09-03 8:32 AM (#242115 - in reply to #242110)
Subject: Re: I'm pretty new to theory, but...


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you seem to be confusing the term "Key" with the term "Scale". The Key of a piece of music will be one of 12 Major or Minor keys as indicated by the key signature. The key will then determine which of many scales can be played. In the group of notes you have given either the E, G, A or the C could be a possible root note , which would produce a different scale in each case.

Maybe post your question in Matt's forum and see if he can help, he's a master with this stuff.
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nonis
Posted 2006-09-05 5:06 PM (#242116 - in reply to #242110)
Subject: Re: I'm pretty new to theory, but...


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Alright. It's just that this guy plays in E and in Em a lot, and in most songs he has either the notes of the Em scale or E scale, and just those 7 notes. And in this song, he has only the 7 notes I showed, not Em notes plus a few more. Thanks for the help, though.
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