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Bentman
Posted 2005-02-06 7:07 PM (#164246)
Subject: Adamas CVT Specials? Help


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I have two questions for you. I just purchased a CVT W597 from ebay (in it's last few minutes) but after researching some more the guitar appears to be an SMT 1597. On the phone the owner tells me that it's a special edition CVT and it has Directional carbon pattern because in 2001 they didn't make a Uni-Directional model. Is this true? Did they make a "special addition"? He tells me it cost him $2300.00 new and that's not list. I still plan on recieving ownership of this fine instrument either way but I'd like to know some truth about it too.
Please help me.
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alpep
Posted 2005-02-06 7:41 PM (#164247 - in reply to #164246)
Subject: Re: Adamas CVT Specials? Help


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Location: NJ
in this case W stands for woven
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Bentman
Posted 2005-02-06 7:44 PM (#164248 - in reply to #164246)
Subject: Re: Adamas CVT Specials? Help


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The pictures show it's Uni-Directional and owner says that it's not woven although he claims that it's a CVT W597. I agree with you. But I'm still confussed. Need more info.
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alpep
Posted 2005-02-06 10:28 PM (#164249 - in reply to #164246)
Subject: Re: Adamas CVT Specials? Help


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call the person your purchased it from.
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Bentman
Posted 2005-02-07 3:40 AM (#164250 - in reply to #164246)
Subject: Re: Adamas CVT Specials? Help


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I did that. I'm not stupid.
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alpep
Posted 2005-02-07 7:10 AM (#164251 - in reply to #164246)
Subject: Re: Adamas CVT Specials? Help


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Originally posted by Bentman:
I did that. I'm not stupid.


in the words of forest gump

stupid is as stupid does
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Bentman
Posted 2005-02-07 7:24 AM (#164252 - in reply to #164246)
Subject: Re: Adamas CVT Specials? Help


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Is there an adult out there that can answer my questions? Thank you
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schroeder
Posted 2005-02-07 8:25 AM (#164253 - in reply to #164246)
Subject: Re: Adamas CVT Specials? Help


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Uh oh.....
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an4340
Posted 2005-02-07 8:40 AM (#164254 - in reply to #164246)
Subject: Re: Adamas CVT Specials? Help


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Have the seller take a picture of the lable on the inside of the guitar. That way you'll know for sure. If he does not take a picture, then it's dubious what it is, and you won't know until you get it. As to the other stuff the seller said, I've never heard of it, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.
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alpep
Posted 2005-02-07 9:04 AM (#164255 - in reply to #164246)
Subject: Re: Adamas CVT Specials? Help


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well message boards are like a box of chocolates...

you never know which idiot you are going to get.
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cliff
Posted 2005-02-07 9:19 AM (#164256 - in reply to #164246)
Subject: Re: Adamas CVT Specials? Help


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We have an "Adult" section??

How do I access it? . . .
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-02-07 9:24 AM (#164257 - in reply to #164246)
Subject: Re: Adamas CVT Specials? Help


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Cliff, I didn't want to be the one to tell you this, but you ARE the adult XXX rated section of this board.

Bentman, post a pic. This sounds like a guitar that was built for the overseas market. If we can see it, we can give you better advice.
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cliff
Posted 2005-02-07 9:26 AM (#164258 - in reply to #164246)
Subject: Re: Adamas CVT Specials? Help


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I feel so proud . . .
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-02-07 9:29 AM (#164259 - in reply to #164246)
Subject: Re: Adamas CVT Specials? Help


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Our leader.....
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ChatMan
Posted 2005-02-07 9:34 AM (#164260 - in reply to #164246)
Subject: Re: Adamas CVT Specials? Help


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I believe this is the auction in question, I was watching it and bid at the beginning. I ended up chickening out when I saw that the description did not seem to jive with the pics and the description looked suspiciously similar to another current auction (like a cut & paste). Add to this the fact that the seller had a history of low dollar book and trinket auctions and the Adamas did not seem like a safe bet. I think I'll use the TAF approach from here on out.
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Bentman
Posted 2005-02-07 9:34 AM (#164261 - in reply to #164246)
Subject: Re: Adamas CVT Specials? Help


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Bentman
Posted 2005-02-07 9:53 AM (#164262 - in reply to #164246)
Subject: Re: Adamas CVT Specials? Help


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I agree that it's always a bit risky to buy anything from ebay. A women sells those other items. The guitar belonged to her fiance. I didn't send cash so I think my money is safe.
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Steve
Posted 2005-02-07 9:58 AM (#164263 - in reply to #164246)
Subject: Re: Adamas CVT Specials? Help


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Hi Bentman, that photo is a photo of an SMT top...

..ebay is always a 'buyer-be-ware' consideration, so that particular seller is either ignorant, mistaken, or 'practising to deceive', as they say...DONT send him any payment until you can verify...


Steve
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Bentman
Posted 2005-02-07 10:09 AM (#164264 - in reply to #164246)
Subject: Re: Adamas CVT Specials? Help


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Thank you Steve. I've been in the market for an LX and had not been able to find an Adamas new anywhere. In haste I didn't have much time to research this guitar but the guy (on the phone) states that it's in new condition and that it was a special guitar made specifically for Mars Music. Whether it's an SMT or CVT isn't the most important thing, both seem to get rave reviews, it's just that I'd like to know if it's what he says it is. The owner says it's returnable if I'm not satisfied. He sounded honest and my wifes a lawyer. With both things I think I'm safe.
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dmkozak
Posted 2005-02-07 1:49 PM (#164265 - in reply to #164246)
Subject: Re: Adamas CVT Specials? Help


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Originally posted by Bentman:
... and my wifes a lawyer. With both things I think I'm safe.


If your wife's a lawyer, you can never be safe!
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Bentman
Posted 2005-02-07 2:13 PM (#164266 - in reply to #164246)
Subject: Re: Adamas CVT Specials? Help


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Good one. =)
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Steve
Posted 2005-02-07 2:41 PM (#164267 - in reply to #164246)
Subject: Re: Adamas CVT Specials? Help


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Hi again Bentman, my limited experience says it's a smooth top (SMT) and not a textured top (CMT); if it was a special order made for Mars Music then it may have been a 'customer' special-order and the customer failed to purchase it from Mars...

Steve
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alpep
Posted 2005-02-07 7:10 PM (#164268 - in reply to #164246)
Subject: Re: Adamas CVT Specials? Help


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cvt is not textured

but what the hell do I know, I am just an idiot that sells gear for a living.
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Mr. Adamas
Posted 2005-02-07 7:59 PM (#164269 - in reply to #164246)
Subject: Re: Adamas CVT Specials? Help


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bentman, when did you talk to the seller?
"... the owner tells me that it's a special edition CVT and it has Directional carbon pattern because in 2001 they didn't make a Uni-Directional model... He tells me it cost him $2300.00" ???

it's a regular SMT 1597. the seller sent me a pix of the factory label. he admitted he made a mistake that it's indeed 1597, not cvt. obviously he gave you bs.

not sending cash won't give u extra protection.
credit card companies don't give you protection or refund for paypal transaction. call your credit card & find out.

btw, the final bid price is kind of high for ebay (from buyer's perspective).
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an4340
Posted 2005-02-07 8:50 PM (#164270 - in reply to #164246)
Subject: Re: Adamas CVT Specials? Help


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Before you pay for this auction make sure you get the guy's HOME address and phone number in case you have to sue him. Tampa's small claims court is a bit of a drive from Georgia, I think your lawyer would be upset to have to get down there. The Dude says he's honest, and he won't take a picture of the inside label???? OH BOY!
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