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Elite LX
Posted 2004-09-12 1:29 PM (#178980)
Subject: E-Bay Item 4 Sale!


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Question is how high will it go? It's a Ovation Elite LX 1778 that is up to only $305.00 with just over a day left. I may have to bid myself.
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Elite LX
Posted 2004-09-12 1:29 PM (#178981 - in reply to #178980)
Subject: Re: E-Bay Item 4 Sale!


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Forgot to leave the link.....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3747865642&ssPageName=STRK:MEBI:IT
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-09-12 1:49 PM (#178982 - in reply to #178980)
Subject: Re: E-Bay Item 4 Sale!


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I'd be a little nervous about the seller. Absolutely no track record and he doesn't state where he is.
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Englishplayer
Posted 2004-09-12 2:02 PM (#178983 - in reply to #178980)
Subject: Re: E-Bay Item 4 Sale!


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I agree with moody. Sellers with little or (in this case) no feedback, seldom get decent prices. I wouldn't use a selling price with this type of seller as a pricing guide on any type of product.
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Slipkid
Posted 2004-09-12 2:23 PM (#178984 - in reply to #178980)
Subject: Re: E-Bay Item 4 Sale!



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Location: south east Michigan
sniff...sniff
Something does not smell right.
If a deal is to good to be true, it usually is.
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MWoody
Posted 2004-09-12 3:21 PM (#178985 - in reply to #178980)
Subject: Re: E-Bay Item 4 Sale!



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Location: Upper Left USA
If you:

Communicate with seller and get assurance of legitamicy

Use a payment method with "protection"

Get a low enough price

It "might" be ok.

If it is new and they go lower than $1049 it violates MAP and is probably not theirs to begin with!

Look at how the other businesses come across on their auctions. This is a high end product on a Rookie formatted site.

Not me.
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2004-09-12 4:25 PM (#178986 - in reply to #178980)
Subject: Re: E-Bay Item 4 Sale!


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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI
Seller has NO track record, doesn't say where he is, no clue if the guitar is new or used, no picture of the real guitar....do yourself a favor and STAY AWAY from this.

Roger
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seesquare
Posted 2004-09-12 6:52 PM (#178987 - in reply to #178980)
Subject: Re: E-Bay Item 4 Sale!


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Brad, that's not a bad smell- it's putrified!! The listing says "original 1968 pickup". Those critters weren't made 'til 1997, according to the archival records. Run, don't walk, away from this one!
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Beal
Posted 2004-09-12 7:12 PM (#178988 - in reply to #178980)
Subject: Re: E-Bay Item 4 Sale!



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If it looks like dog shit,
smells like dog shit,
feels like dog shit,
tastes like dog shit,
it probably is.
Don't step in it!
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worshipleader
Posted 2004-09-12 8:23 PM (#178989 - in reply to #178980)
Subject: Re: E-Bay Item 4 Sale!


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Location: NW NJ
I sent the dude an email with a bunch of questions. Here's a copy of it:

"Questions about your item

Dear dpausch743,

I have a few questions about your guitar. Is it new and therefore comes with warranty? If not new, how long have you owned it and why are you selling? What is the condition of the guitar -- is there any damage, fret wear, cracks, dents, dings, chips, etc. Is ther anything not mint about the guitar? Do you accept PayPal, checks, credit cards, cashier's checks, money orders? How much are your shipping charges including insurance? Lots of questions, but the answers were not included in your listing." Jerk (editorial comment)

Of course he hasn't answered - he probably doesn't know any of the stuff cause the guitar probably doesn't even exist. Sounds like a good way to lose several hundred bux to me. definitely dog crap.
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Elite LX
Posted 2004-09-12 8:30 PM (#178990 - in reply to #178980)
Subject: Re: E-Bay Item 4 Sale!


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Well, I hate when there are no good deals out there to be had. It did seem to good thast is why I figured it would not end nowhere near $300-$400 range. You are right about feedback and history.......however we all begin somewhere on E-Bay which is "0" rating. If one uses a form of payment that is protected then your covered against the fraud aspect. Who really knows? I will contact the winner to see if they received a great guitar and buy!
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2004-09-12 9:26 PM (#178991 - in reply to #178980)
Subject: Re: E-Bay Item 4 Sale!



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He didn't respond to my questions, either.
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O'mike
Posted 2004-09-13 11:28 AM (#178992 - in reply to #178980)
Subject: Re: E-Bay Item 4 Sale!


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Mine either...did anyone get a response?
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seesquare
Posted 2004-09-13 11:56 PM (#178993 - in reply to #178980)
Subject: Re: E-Bay Item 4 Sale!


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So, $560.00, eh? Well, we will see what the feedback profile looks like in a couple of weeks, I guess. Mighty cheap for an Elite, to be sure. Must have fallen off the truck, somewhere.
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omegaman
Posted 2004-09-14 12:33 AM (#178994 - in reply to #178980)
Subject: Re: E-Bay Item 4 Sale!


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Didn't respond to two of my emails. I sent an email to the buyer warning him of a potential ripoff. I have been ripped severly twice before, lost over 4k on eBay and related deals.
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MWoody
Posted 2004-09-14 7:58 AM (#178995 - in reply to #178980)
Subject: Re: E-Bay Item 4 Sale!



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C2 - the term SWAG, stolen without a gun comes to mind.

No response to my inquiry as well.
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John Lawrence
Posted 2004-09-14 8:25 AM (#178996 - in reply to #178980)
Subject: Re: E-Bay Item 4 Sale!


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I don't use Ebay period. I need to see what I am buying up front and only through reputable dealers. It's teh only way to fly! Play On!

John L.

Custom Legend 1779-USA (on order)
Legend LX
Balladeer LX
Std. Balladeer
Celebrity C026
Tornado (1970)
Takamine 12 String
Martin D16GT
Fender P-Bass (1975)
Fender Strat (1974)
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Standingovation
Posted 2004-09-14 9:02 AM (#178997 - in reply to #178980)
Subject: Re: E-Bay Item 4 Sale!



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Ebay is a double edged sword. Yes, I would prefer to see what I'm buying and also support local dealers, etc. But on the other hand, there are some really nice things that I've obtained from ebay that I never ever in a million years could have found locally. It's also allowed me to sell things at may times more than I could have gotten locally. There may be other on-line methods that are lower rick than ebay, but they don't have the massive selection that ebay has. I've had a few disappointing transactions and luckily have not lost more than maybe $500 total on ebay, but by and large I've been very pleased what what ebay has allowed be to do wrt buying and selling guitars. I do try to support the locals when technically and financially possible.
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seesquare
Posted 2004-09-14 1:58 PM (#178998 - in reply to #178980)
Subject: Re: E-Bay Item 4 Sale!


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I rise and stand in agreement with my esteemed colleague from Arizona. I have done virtually all of my acquisitions, and liquidations, through Ebay. I have generally been pleased with the outcomes, and integrity of the transactions. I agree it is significantly less anxiety-provoking to do business with familiar characters. Towit, I renew my appreciation to that great embodiment of curmudgeonry, the facilitator of mirth and pharmaceutical exploration, from the great state of New Jersey, Our OFC Administrator, Mr. Alexander Pepiak! (huzzah, cheers, and approbation erupt)
Hey, Al, get well!
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-09-14 2:51 PM (#178999 - in reply to #178980)
Subject: Re: E-Bay Item 4 Sale!


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I was burned once, on a car part, from Canada. Everything else I've done on ebay has worked out well. I have no problems with ebay.
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MWoody
Posted 2004-09-14 7:22 PM (#179000 - in reply to #178980)
Subject: Re: E-Bay Item 4 Sale!



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Just got this in:
September 14, 2004, 04:08:32 PM, you wrote:

Dear dpausch743,

Is this instrument sold with a warantee?
Do you have a bussiness address that can be confirmed?
Do you have any pics of the actual guitar?

Hello woodfordmichael,

This is brand new item, has full warranty, in original box. All manuals etc included. Shipping will be $12 via usps, my account. I offer 30 days money back if your are interested. If you have any additional questions please feel free to contact me. Have a nice day!

I'm sorry but "Run Forrest, Run!"

On the other hand I heard from the jubilant new owner of my Pacemaker! Ebay and UPS can work!
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cruster
Posted 2004-09-14 7:39 PM (#179001 - in reply to #178980)
Subject: Re: E-Bay Item 4 Sale!


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Originally posted by MWoody:
Just got this in:
September 14, 2004, 04:08:32 PM, you wrote:

Dear dpausch743,

Is this instrument sold with a warantee?
Do you have a bussiness address that can be confirmed?
Do you have any pics of the actual guitar?

Hello woodfordmichael,

This is brand new item, has full warranty, in original box. All manuals etc included. Shipping will be $12 via usps, my account. I offer 30 days money back if your are interested. If you have any additional questions please feel free to contact me. Have a nice day!

I'm sorry but "Run Forrest, Run!"

On the other hand I heard from the jubilant new owner of my Pacemaker! Ebay and UPS can work!


I sh!t you not, I just received the EXACT SAME MESSAGE, word for word, from a zero-feedback seller (fdficker445) regarding a new Peavey Limited VT Quilt Top! Unfortunately, he replied to me the day after the auction ended!

And no, I wasn't buying anything new, I was just curious what was going on, as it was a Made in the US Peavey with a $40 start and no reserve. They just don't go for $200 every day, you know?
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O'mike
Posted 2004-09-14 8:13 PM (#179002 - in reply to #178980)
Subject: Re: E-Bay Item 4 Sale!


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I got the same e-mail..........

This is brand new item, has full warranty, in original box. All manuals etc included. Shipping will be $12 via usps, my account. I offer 30 days money back if your are interested. If you have any additional questions please feel free to contact me.
Have a nice day!
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seesquare
Posted 2004-09-14 10:17 PM (#179003 - in reply to #178980)
Subject: Re: E-Bay Item 4 Sale!


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Like I said......a couple of weeks will tell.
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worshipleader
Posted 2004-09-15 8:57 AM (#179004 - in reply to #178980)
Subject: Re: E-Bay Item 4 Sale!


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Same message to me too.

Hello robbiegross,

This is brand new item, has full warranty, in original box. All manuals etc included. Shipping will be $12 via usps, my account. I offer 30 days money back if your are interested. If you have any additional questions please feel free to contact me. Have a nice day!

The other odd thing (if this deal could get any odder ...) is the next in his message which came before a repeat of my question:

"September 14, 2004, 04:08:52 PM, you wrote:"

I sent the question to him on the 10th ... hmmm - I really hope that this goes OK for the cat who bought it.
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