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bauerhillboy
Posted 2006-08-31 6:47 AM (#242234)
Subject: Taylor trouble


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Who else besides me secretly longs for a totally WOODY sound that...well...I just don't get from my Ovations, as much as I love them.
Yesterday I went to pick up my friend's Taylor 814ce which had been in for a repair. I'm not generally excited by Taylors: I feel like you pay an extra $1500 just to get a WOOD back and sides.
But I got into some trouble. I picked up a cedar/mahogany GS model...one I've read about and liked the concept. OH, MY.
I can't describe what that sound did to my insides. My brain just sort of short circuited for about 10 minutes. If I were a single guy I would have walked out with it.
I am firmly entrenched in the Ovation camp, but I've never heard a 6 string Ovation that did THAT to me before. Help someone.
I know lots of you have other guitars besides Ovations. Is it OK to need a WOOD SOUND "fix" from time to time? John <>{
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Slipkid
Posted 2006-08-31 7:33 AM (#242235 - in reply to #242234)
Subject: Re: Taylor trouble



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There have been a couple Taylors that have tried to seduce me. And at the risk of CWK2 putting me on his permanent "ignore" list... some of the high end Taylors I have played have that distintive Ovation crispness to them.
IMO...if your looking for that muffeled "wood" sound, put the Taylor down and pick up something like a Martin D-28.
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bvince
Posted 2006-08-31 7:50 AM (#242236 - in reply to #242234)
Subject: Re: Taylor trouble



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If you want that great"wood" sound, and are wise enough to not pay the price taylor is wanting for their highest-end models, go for an Elite 1537. If you try one you won't even consider the others again.
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Beal
Posted 2006-08-31 7:58 AM (#242237 - in reply to #242234)
Subject: Re: Taylor trouble



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Location: 6 String Ranch
As long as it's high end you're ok. Try a Bourgeois, Santa Cruz, Froggy Bottom, or a Collings, Goodall, or Tippin. There's lots of good ones out there. All kindsa ice cream.
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Omaha
Posted 2006-08-31 8:06 AM (#242238 - in reply to #242234)
Subject: Re: Taylor trouble


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Location: Omaha, NE
Nothing wrong with Taylors. They are what they are: Extremely good construction, well chosen woods, very good action. The NT neck system is simply outstanding. A great application of high tech manufacturing to guitars. The ES (pickup) system doesn't quite live up to the Taylor hype, but it works and once you understand how to eq it.

They have their own distinct sound. As you discovered, the new GS line is really, really nice. That is the same shape that they are using in their premium "R. Taylor" line as well.

My 714ce is a nice compliment to my Adamas.
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Tupperware
Posted 2006-08-31 8:20 AM (#242239 - in reply to #242234)
Subject: Re: Taylor trouble


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I've wanted to try a GS model but have not yet done so. Seems like a nice concept and it certainly looks very nice to the eye. I agree with bvince, Ovation 1537 is nice. A good attempt at the woody sound, unless you compare it top the real thing. I'm intriged by the GS and hope to try one. Dave
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Jeff
Posted 2006-08-31 10:28 AM (#242240 - in reply to #242234)
Subject: Re: Taylor trouble


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Location: Central Florida
Originally posted by bauerhillboy:
Is it OK to need a WOOD SOUND "fix" from time to time?
Absolutely.
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stephent28
Posted 2006-08-31 10:56 AM (#242241 - in reply to #242234)
Subject: Re: Taylor trouble



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I have mainly O's but I do have a Martin Norm Blake model and a Taylor DDSM Doyle Dykes with the LR Baggs system (No ES crap). I am also picking up next week my custom made Baxendale 12 fret 12 string slothead cutaway.

All play and sound wonderful and fill a niche. I am glad I have them.

The biggest problem with them is that I fret about a stong breeze coming by and scratching them....with my O's, I just grab them and play!
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Slipkid
Posted 2006-08-31 11:04 AM (#242242 - in reply to #242234)
Subject: Re: Taylor trouble



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The DDSM model is very nice.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-08-31 12:36 PM (#242243 - in reply to #242234)
Subject: Re: Taylor trouble


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If I won the lottery, there'd be a lot of different all wood guitars in my collection.
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Tommy M.
Posted 2006-08-31 3:05 PM (#242244 - in reply to #242234)
Subject: Re: Taylor trouble


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As I have mostly O's, I do have a ceder topped Taylor 514ce. It's got a bright woody sound that I enjoy, and it plays well. Taylor has some great sounding guitars, but are a little pricey, and you gotta worry because their delicate. With all the guitars being made today, you could probably find a similar guitar for about half the price of a Taylor.
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GregoryS.
Posted 2006-08-31 3:21 PM (#242245 - in reply to #242234)
Subject: Re: Taylor trouble
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Location: San Angelo, Texas
Hmmmm....Taylors...

I own two...and sell them as well. No one that haas come into my store has LEFT with one after playing an Ovation and the Taylor side by side, back to back, pluged in and unpluged. THAT is where you see the difference. Not only do the O's and A's sounds better, they are less than half the price of a Taylor that has less features.

If you want a wood guitar, don't pay for marketing hype. Buy a Breedlove or a Takamine...
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Slipkid
Posted 2006-08-31 3:38 PM (#242246 - in reply to #242234)
Subject: Re: Taylor trouble



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Well said Greg...
No brag....just fact!
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stephent28
Posted 2006-08-31 3:58 PM (#242247 - in reply to #242234)
Subject: Re: Taylor trouble



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I starting to get the feeling that there are too many PRINCE fans on this site! :eek:
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Slipkid
Posted 2006-08-31 4:04 PM (#242248 - in reply to #242234)
Subject: Re: Taylor trouble



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Location: south east Michigan
:confused:
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Brian T
Posted 2006-08-31 4:05 PM (#242249 - in reply to #242234)
Subject: Re: Taylor trouble


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Not only do the O's and A's sounds better, they are less than half the price of a Taylor that has less features
I dont know why everybody keeps saying that Ovations are so much more cheaper than Taylors or Martins. All of the Adamas and higher end Ovation models start around $2000, thats about the street price for a Taylor GS. You can get a nice Martin 16 or 18 series for well under $1800, and the same is true for the Taylor 400 series.


An entry level US made Ovation like a Balladeer or a Elite-T is around $800. You can pick up many Martin 15 series or Taylor 200 and 300 series for the same price or less.

And I won't go into the whole tone argument, but pick up a Taylor 210 Dreadnaught or a Martin D15 and play it a bit, then show me any Ovation model that can come even close for less than $700 in terms of unplugged tone and playability.

Just trying to set the record straight, I like Ovations as well, but the fact's are being skewed here just a bit.
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stephent28
Posted 2006-08-31 4:06 PM (#242250 - in reply to #242234)
Subject: Re: Taylor trouble



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Originally posted by Slipkid:
:confused:
Formerly know as...Waskel
Formerly know as....GregoryS
Rick a/k/a an4340

and a few other variations.
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stephent28
Posted 2006-08-31 4:07 PM (#242251 - in reply to #242234)
Subject: Re: Taylor trouble



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Originally posted by Brian T:

Just trying to set the record straight, I like Ovations as well, but the fact's are being skewed here just a bit.
Go play your T5...ya traitor!
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Tommy M.
Posted 2006-08-31 4:10 PM (#242252 - in reply to #242234)
Subject: Re: Taylor trouble


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For some reason, the word Taylor, gets a lot of peoples' attention in this forum.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-08-31 4:16 PM (#242253 - in reply to #242234)
Subject: Re: Taylor trouble


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There's nothing wrong with Taylors. I played a very nice 314 a couple of nights ago. They just don't ring my chimes.....
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First Alternate
Posted 2006-08-31 4:21 PM (#242254 - in reply to #242234)
Subject: Re: Taylor trouble
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Is it OK to need a WOOD SOUND "fix" from time to time? John <>{ [/QB]
Of course. I have other guitars besides Os, and I enjoy them all. The difference between us and the wood sniffers is we have more options.
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JeffreyD
Posted 2006-08-31 4:58 PM (#242255 - in reply to #242234)
Subject: Re: Taylor trouble


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Wood sniffers????? You should smell the potent glue aroma eminating from my 2080. Enough to give me a buzz...oh...that's a different thread I think about set-up.
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Brian T
Posted 2006-08-31 5:09 PM (#242256 - in reply to #242234)
Subject: Re: Taylor trouble


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I've also grown fond of the "auto body shop" aroma exuded by my Ovation guitars.
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Waskel
Posted 2006-08-31 6:08 PM (#242257 - in reply to #242234)
Subject: Re: Taylor trouble



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Originally posted by stephent28:
I starting to get the feeling that there are too many PRINCE fans on this site! :eek:
Not me. I just always thought the whole "Artist Formerly Known as Prince" thing was hilarious after he changed his name to an unpronouncable symbol.
I would have done that but the board software won't let me.
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GregoryS.
Posted 2006-08-31 11:12 PM (#242258 - in reply to #242234)
Subject: Re: Taylor trouble
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And I was just doing what Waskel did...HE made me...don't mind purple rain playing in the backround....
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