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ProfessorBB
Posted 2008-09-11 9:31 AM (#21260)
Subject: Hard cases vs soft cases: real world use



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Is it just me, or does anybody else prefer soft cases over the cast factory hard cases? The OSCs may be o.k. for room storage, but I find them burdensome for transporting guitars. They're heavy, easily scuffed and damaged, unforgiving in tight spaces, and worst of all, damage surfaces they come into contact with, like car seats, door jams, amp cabinets and speaker grills, and furniture. I have two soft cases, an Ovation for the SSBs and a Tribal Planet dreadnaught size for everything else, including solid bodies that require a custom foam insert. I've been using these soft cases two and three times a week for the past year and they still look new, and nothing is getting damaged. IMHO, the Tribal Planet case, with its super sized zippers, is absolutely the best soft case on the market. I only wish they were more readily available here in the states.
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cliff
Posted 2008-09-11 9:49 AM (#21261 - in reply to #21260)
Subject: Re: Hard cases vs soft cases: real world use


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I agree.
The TribalPlanets are "the Best".
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-09-11 10:15 AM (#21262 - in reply to #21260)
Subject: Re: Hard cases vs soft cases: real world use


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I never use hard cases unless I have to. I have Tribal Planet cases for just about everything. They should be available in the US by now, D'Andrea have been distributing for a while
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cliff
Posted 2008-09-11 10:21 AM (#21263 - in reply to #21260)
Subject: Re: Hard cases vs soft cases: real world use


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The weekend of Paul's Wedding, he & I were jockey-ing something like like 8 or 9 guitars back and forth. Having the soft cases was an aboslute life-saver . . .
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2008-09-11 12:22 PM (#21264 - in reply to #21260)
Subject: Re: Hard cases vs soft cases: real world use


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I don't think I have ever used a soft case to transport a guitar anywhere. I despise the shape of the hard cases, but fear destroying guitars in a soft case. I could just picture an amp pushing up against a guitar and breaking it, or some helpful person dropping the soft case, followed by the next person setting an amp on it. etc etc etc..
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-09-11 12:27 PM (#21265 - in reply to #21260)
Subject: Re: Hard cases vs soft cases: real world use


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We should define "soft case" here. The TP cases are semi-rigid and do not fit the standard definition of a soft case

Take a look at this. The guy doing the presentation is really annoying, but stay with it

Testing a Tribal Planet case
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cliff
Posted 2008-09-11 12:28 PM (#21266 - in reply to #21260)
Subject: Re: Hard cases vs soft cases: real world use


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If you put your guitars in the postion of putting them into a van FIRST so that someone may push an amp up against it, or in a location where someone can set-up an amp on TOP of it, then you pretty much "deserve" to have the guitar damaged . . .


(or you should be playing a Taylor)
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Beal
Posted 2008-09-11 12:35 PM (#21267 - in reply to #21260)
Subject: Re: Hard cases vs soft cases: real world use



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Soft cases, lighter weight and easier to strap across your back
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cliff
Posted 2008-09-11 12:35 PM (#21268 - in reply to #21260)
Subject: Re: Hard cases vs soft cases: real world use


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" . . Testing a Tribal Planet case . ."

f@ck the case!

I wanna' learn that cool trick with the "squeezie-things" at the beginning of the vid!!
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cliff
Posted 2008-09-11 12:39 PM (#21269 - in reply to #21260)
Subject: Re: Hard cases vs soft cases: real world use


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Paul;

Are these guys "hiring"??? . . . .
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-09-11 12:45 PM (#21270 - in reply to #21260)
Subject: Re: Hard cases vs soft cases: real world use


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Hiring what? They're a distributor based in Yorkshire, one of the smaller UK distributors, but that can be a good thing. From the dealings I've had with them they're a good company.
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BT717
Posted 2008-09-11 12:46 PM (#21271 - in reply to #21260)
Subject: Re: Hard cases vs soft cases: real world use


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Which one do you recomend for mid to deep bowl Ovations?
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-09-11 12:46 PM (#21272 - in reply to #21260)
Subject: Re: Hard cases vs soft cases: real world use


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They need....

A Trebuchet.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2008-09-11 12:50 PM (#21273 - in reply to #21260)
Subject: Re: Hard cases vs soft cases: real world use



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Paul, thanks for that link. The tribal Planet and Ovation cases I use are both semi-rigid nylon covered cases, the Tribal Planet with a layer of soft foam lining on the inside as well, not the typical nylong bag type of case. The link certainly demonstrates the protective qualities of the Tribal Planet case. I don't believe there is any way any of my hard cases could survive a two-story fall without damage, let alone what might happen to the contents.
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cliff
Posted 2008-09-11 12:54 PM (#21274 - in reply to #21260)
Subject: Re: Hard cases vs soft cases: real world use


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". . They need....

A Trebuchet . ."


Well, they WERE soliciting "suggestions" . . .


This may be your opportunity to unload that thing.
(GooodLuck getting to the UK, tho . . )
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-09-11 1:03 PM (#21275 - in reply to #21260)
Subject: Re: Hard cases vs soft cases: real world use


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Originally posted by BT717:
Which one do you recomend for mid to deep bowl Ovations?
Needs to be a D (dreadnought)
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-09-11 1:31 PM (#21276 - in reply to #21260)
Subject: Re: Hard cases vs soft cases: real world use


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Originally posted by cliff:
Well, they WERE soliciting "suggestions" . . .

This may be your opportunity to unload that thing.
(GooodLuck getting to the UK, tho . . )
I did send them a suggestion... and the clip...
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stephent28
Posted 2008-09-11 1:46 PM (#21277 - in reply to #21260)
Subject: Re: Hard cases vs soft cases: real world use



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Would you put one of these on a plane or just for local carrying around?
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cliff
Posted 2008-09-11 1:53 PM (#21278 - in reply to #21260)
Subject: Re: Hard cases vs soft cases: real world use


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I'd CARRY it on to a plane, but I wouldn't even trust an Ovation case in a cargo hold. . .
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2008-09-11 1:56 PM (#21279 - in reply to #21260)
Subject: Re: Hard cases vs soft cases: real world use



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A Tribal Planet is the only one I'd carry on a plane (well, of course, the Traveler, too).
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Northcountry
Posted 2008-09-11 3:25 PM (#21280 - in reply to #21260)
Subject: Re: Hard cases vs soft cases: real world use
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I only have one soft case it is a well made but inexpensive "made in china" case called RoadRunner. ? Nice lining well padded heavy duty zippers and all kinds of pockets and clipped storage flaps. I use it all the time.

I would like to find a plain heavy nylon, basic black, bag that is just made with a good lining large zippers and no storage compartments built into it. The storage is nice but it makes the guitar way to big and odd shaped to pack well and it gets heavy if you use them to pack all the cords, music, and accessories, And these can damage the guitar if hit.
I will have to check out these other bags Paul & Cliff are talking about.
By the way there are times when packing an SUV with equipment that the big heavy amps, speaker stands, PA, speakers & power mic stands, extra gear and Guitars all end up in the rear storage packed to the top. I have used the hard cases with no reservations. The best packed plans of mice & men can cause damage to a guitar in a gig bag when ya slam on the breaks to miss a dear when you going 65-70.
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Northcountry
Posted 2008-09-11 3:34 PM (#21281 - in reply to #21260)
Subject: Re: Hard cases vs soft cases: real world use
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Curious? how do they treat a guitar now when flying. Have not had a guitar on a plane in 10 years or more? You must have to hold it in your lap if the plane is full.

And is there an OVATION gig bag available? Don't remember ever seeing one?
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2008-09-11 3:46 PM (#21282 - in reply to #21260)
Subject: Re: Hard cases vs soft cases: real world use



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And is there an OVATION gig bag available? Don't remember ever seeing one? [/QB]
Google Zero Gravity Ovation and you'll hit links to the case. They have both deep and shallow bowl models with semi-rigid sides. I bought mine through Al.

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lanaki
Posted 2008-09-11 3:54 PM (#21283 - in reply to #21260)
Subject: Re: Hard cases vs soft cases: real world use


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Originally posted by Paul Templeman:
Originally posted by BT717:
Which one do you recomend for mid to deep bowl Ovations?
Needs to be a D (dreadnought)
there's a US company selling 3 of the dread size tribals on eBay currently. $70.00 each BIN

here's the link
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Northcountry
Posted 2008-09-11 3:57 PM (#21284 - in reply to #21260)
Subject: Re: Hard cases vs soft cases: real world use
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I should be seeing Al fairly soon, I'd like me one-a them Ovation giggers.
Thanks
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