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"Day At The Beach" Discussion & Review.

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Slipkid
Posted 2008-08-20 8:41 PM (#25068)
Subject: "Day At The Beach" Discussion & Review.



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Wow...
Just a few songs in and I gotta say, this disc is gooood.
And I think it has a lot to with the the "no covers" rule.
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alpep
Posted 2008-08-20 8:51 PM (#25069 - in reply to #25068)
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probably saved since I did not get to submit a tune.
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Slipkid
Posted 2008-08-20 9:11 PM (#25070 - in reply to #25068)
Subject: Re: "Day At The Beach" Discussion & Review.



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Stephen... Why you little production monkey you!

Great work!Bobbo... You went for that 60's surf sound & you got it!!

Dave.... Well written. The words formed a vivid picture in my head.

Beal... as you like to say, "well said". Top drawer guitar work. That song darn well better have won at the Mermaid at one time or another!

Mike.. I'm pleased to get as close as seconc place to that song.

Randy... You're making me want to buy a plane ticket.

And Cliff... You really streched yourself on this one buddy. A new instrument, great imagery. Great vocals and production work.

.______________
There is some great production work here.More to come after a few more times through it.And Al... cut it out. Your sounding like Eyore.    I'll never play good... you're better off without me... thanks for noticing me.

Next time Al... next time for sure! Okay??
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stonebobbo
Posted 2008-08-20 9:18 PM (#25071 - in reply to #25068)
Subject: Re: "Day At The Beach" Discussion & Review.



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Originally posted by alpep:
probably saved since I did not get to submit a tune.
Aw, c'mon Al. Pretty As A Picture is a tune that would capture Andy Warhol's attention. Wish you could've put something on this disc. Definitely next time, OK?
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alpep
Posted 2008-08-20 11:10 PM (#25072 - in reply to #25068)
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warhol is dead
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stonebobbo
Posted 2008-08-21 2:23 AM (#25073 - in reply to #25068)
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I knew that. But he wasn't when you wrote the song. ;)
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Beal
Posted 2008-08-21 6:11 AM (#25074 - in reply to #25068)
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Slipkid, that's the first song I ever did at S/S wednesday, it got first.
Haven't got mine yet, looking forward to it.
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stephent28
Posted 2008-08-21 10:11 AM (#25075 - in reply to #25068)
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Thanks Brad.

I had a lot of fun reworking that one from the Mermaid and adding all the goofy harmonies.
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2008-08-21 1:30 PM (#25076 - in reply to #25068)
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Just got mine! (THANKS!!!) Got a room full of jam session right now so I'll have to listen later. I stopped playing with them. Think they'll take the hint and go home?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-08-21 1:33 PM (#25077 - in reply to #25068)
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I really enjoyed listening to it yesterday. It'll stay in the car for more plays.

I guess that one of the reasons I don't try to record something for a cd is that with me, it would just be vocals and guitar. On almost every cut, it sounded like a full band and string section. I'm very very impressed with what everybody's been doing....
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Slipkid
Posted 2008-08-21 1:43 PM (#25078 - in reply to #25068)
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I know what you mean Paul. Compared to a few other cuts, mine seems woefully under-produced. So if I can't use that excuse, neither can you.
But variety is the spice of life as they say, and I think there is a place for those "simpler" tunes.

Todays words of wisdom....
Lower your standards and achive your goals!
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-08-21 2:00 PM (#25079 - in reply to #25068)
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Originally posted by Slipkid:
Todays words of wisdom....
Lower your standards and achive your goals!
Mediocrity is not an option....
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Slipkid
Posted 2008-08-21 2:12 PM (#25080 - in reply to #25068)
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Ya gotta crawl before you can walk, and walk before you can run.
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2008-08-21 2:13 PM (#25081 - in reply to #25068)
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Never strive for perfection. Always strive for excellence.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-08-21 2:36 PM (#25082 - in reply to #25068)
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Originally posted by Slipkid:
I know what you mean Paul. Compared to a few other cuts, mine seems woefully under-produced.
It's a fine line between under-produced and over-produced. I struggled with the same feeling Brad. There is something to be said for the simplicity of a voice and guitar. Maybe if we do another CD in the future we theme it as a "singer/songwriter" release.

At least for me, the issue with over-produced is that I've got a lot of "stuff", you know DAW synth, drum triggers, etc. that I never get to use except for a project like this one. So the tendency is to open up the closet and try to use everything I've got. Wrong approach.

My first "final" verson of Ocean Street had a zillion tracks, saxophones, strings, hand claps, triple tracked guitars, blah, blah, blah. I demo'd it for my wife and she hated it. "I thought this was a guitar club, why are you trying to be a bad Phil Spector wanna-be?"

I cut out 2 verses, ditched all kinds of crap and ended up with something much more managable. But you know what, I also saved a version with just acoustic guitar (Tak TF430) and vocals, and it doesn't sound all that bad (to me).

There's a few guys on the CD who did basically that - Vocals and Guitar. I like it. Acrobat without a net.

Dave
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Slipkid
Posted 2008-08-21 2:53 PM (#25083 - in reply to #25068)
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I like the variety the disc offers.

I don't have synth drums or the like so I can't be tempted. Just a cajone might just do the trick.... someday.

Some.. not me... might concider Stephen's little overture to his tune a production device. Not me. I love it. I've hit the backtrack a couple time to hear it again.

And Dave, I'd like to hear the unplugged version of Ocean Street sometime. And weren't you the guy who got all over Stephen about his 29 tracks and then went on to extoll the virtues of simplicty???

About the...
"Lower your standards and achive your goals!"
I should have put one of the little winky icons next to that. I was not serious.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-08-21 2:55 PM (#25084 - in reply to #25068)
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Originally posted by Slipkid:
Ya gotta crawl before you can walk, and walk before you can run.
It's not how well the dancing bear dances, it's that he dances at all......
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Slipkid
Posted 2008-08-21 3:01 PM (#25085 - in reply to #25068)
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We can all quote cliches until we're blue in the face.
Myself and I'm sure others want to hear something from you next time.
So get busy!
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-08-21 3:05 PM (#25086 - in reply to #25068)
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It's easy to get a snake to dance once you figure out how to get shoes on it.....
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cliff
Posted 2008-08-21 3:05 PM (#25087 - in reply to #25068)
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Yeah, I was guilty of over-doing it as well, but that's how I'd "heard" the song in my head . . .
. . the middle part was probably a bit "much", but I wanted something in the middle t'break-up the "strummy, strummy, sing-y, sing-y".
I had re-mixed a somewhat "unplugged" version as well, - no flutes.

I like the idea of just "guitar/vocal" for the next one. TwoTrakMax.
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cliff
Posted 2008-08-21 3:07 PM (#25088 - in reply to #25068)
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". . It's easy to get a snake to dance once you figure out how to get shoes on it . . ."

. . . or put it on a hotplate.
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Slipkid
Posted 2008-08-21 3:13 PM (#25089 - in reply to #25068)
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Cliff.... I don't concider yours or anyone's track to be "over" produced. We are just such a varied mix of talent and recording experience that the differences really show when they are put track to track.
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stephent28
Posted 2008-08-21 3:33 PM (#25090 - in reply to #25068)
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SWMBO just called and told me Dave's package arrived.

I might have to leave work early to play hooky and have a listen.

THANKS DAVE! THANKS CLIFF! and THANKS to all the contributors. I am sure this will be a fun CD just like the previous ones!
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-08-21 3:36 PM (#25091 - in reply to #25068)
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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Mediocrity is not an option....
...therefore I rightfully submitted nothin'!!! ;)
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Beal
Posted 2008-08-21 3:41 PM (#25092 - in reply to #25068)
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Mine hasn't arrived yet, the mule is still working it's way up the mountain.

My tune took an hour to do and an hour to mix it.
The vocal and rhythm were one take and first take.
I put on three other guitar tracks and we used bits and pieces.
One slide track after that but the solo was done four times, the last one was the keeper. It's the full solo, it wasn't pieced together.

It's nice to have friends with this kind of equipment who owe you favors.
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