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| I took the Breadwinner into my guitar tech today to confirm my suspiscion that the neck is fine. We looked it over (nut, bridge, frets, neck curvature) and came to the conclusion that the neck is perfectly straight-the 24th fret just seems to be off in its placement on the board. How this is, I do not know, but that just seems to be the way it came from the factory 24 years ago.
I'd like to offer this instrument to the OFC again at $700+shipping of buyer's choice. This is (for those of you not yet subscribed to the soap opera that has been owning this instrument)a '79-'81 Breadwinner Limited, one of 500 produced to this specification. Condition is very good. The only major finish flaws are two dings on the lower side of the guitar, one of which just barely goes through to the finish. There is also a mysterious area on the the top of the guitar near the elbow contour where the finish seems to have sunken. This cannot be felt and is only visible under certain lighting. Also (I forgot to include this originally) the finish around the fret ends on the sides of the neck has worn somewhat, creating small bumps that can be felt while playing. They don't catch or cut your hand; they just can be felt.
The frets are in good condition. Hardware and electronics are all-original. I will ship with the original hardcase, which is in good shape. The flaws with the case are as follows: The inner compartment door under the neck has seperated from the case, and there is some corrosion on the latches. The lid ribbon is intact.
I can provide more details to interested parties on request. Please PM me for more info.
(edit) I also have MWoody making an Ebony truss rod cover to replace the current one, which is cracked at the corners. I'll mail this to the buyer when I get it at no extra cost. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | I am looking at where the saddles are set. I think the treble is a trifle forward.
Any one else?
Hope to have it out this weekend. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Yeah, Wood-ster this whole thing troubles me too. I noticed that the screw heads on the pickguard screws are not all facing exactly the same way and that the G string has about an extra 1/8 inch or excess at the tuners compared to the other strings. Dave |
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Location: Upper Left USA | C'mon Dave! I just wanted to sound smart like one of those guys named Paul!
Good thing I have that "sarcasm" filter installed. It shows all sarcastic postings in black letters... |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | 24th fret is off. OK, how often do you play it? |
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| Not often.
The volume and tone knobs are about 1/64th of an inch too high off the pickguard-that might have something to do with it as well. ;) |
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Location: Midland, MI | I'm still wondering why you'd need to go past the first five frets. |
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Location: Orange County, California | Well, if you jack the action up and play slide on it... :p |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | The knobs can be lowered, the fret can't be moved. |
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| With all seriousness, I had this intonated after the "red-carpet" picture was taken. Improved, but didn't fix, the issue. |
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Location: Keller, TX | Originally posted by cruster:
I'm still wondering why you'd need to go past the first five frets. Sometimes you have to put a capo on the third fret. |
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| Or the 12th, for a poor man's mandolin... |
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| Got a request for more pics, so I'm loading these on a picture-by-picture basis...
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The first major ding on the lower side of the instrument. Wide, but not deep. |
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| The tuners.
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The headstock logo. |
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| Any more that I should post besides this one? I have pictures from virtually every angle.
The 2nd dent:
Not as big as the first and does not go through the finish.
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| Oh, I forgot:
This nasty-looking thing. It looks bad, but I swear to God that you cannot feel it when you run your hand over it. Only visible in certain lighting (as here.)
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| Perhaps a dumb question, but I feel as if it needs asking.
Am I trying to make a flower out of a dog turd here? Does the fret issue make this an unsellable instrument? |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by Katana6506:
Does the fret issue make this an unsellable instrument? Absolutely. At the risk of being shunned by my friends who can play at the 24th fret and yet be in tune, I'll give you $100 for it, just because you're a Club member, and I haven't done my good deed yet today. So you don't feel guilty about owning it.
Please, don't make a big deal out of it. It's just the kind of guy I am.
Kat, most people I know get nose bleeds when they play above the 14th fret. If they're up around the 20th, they're so dizzy they are bending all over the place anyway. The 24th fret, IMHO, is a piece of real estate where intonation matters to very few. |
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Location: NJ | . . . and getcher FEET off the furniture!!! |
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Location: Bluffton, SC | I totally agree with Waskel, Kat. You have no idea how bad I've made a 24th fret sound knowing, for a fact, that the guitar I was playing was dead on. I think, in all fairness and honesty, you have to disclose that you do believe it to be off but it really should matter more to collectors than to players. You may not end up getting what you'd like for it but I would have to believe that guitar is far from a complete turd. I would love to take a fair shot at it but now's just not the time for me.
(That said, and Waskel may hate me for this - but just don't tell him, k? - but I've got $101 if you're interested.) |
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Location: closely held secret | $102.50 - and I've heard from reliable sources that Weaser abuses his guitars late at night... you don't want that on you conscience, do you? |
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Location: Bluffton, SC | Unfortunately, that's a proven fact... |
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Let's try this again.
