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Stephen P
Posted 2005-07-23 6:20 PM (#335486)
Subject: Looking for a Gibson Les Paul Standard...


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I know there are many on E-bay, and they aren't rare, but I was hoping if someone could give me a good price for a Gibson Les Paul standard.

It doesn't have to be mint condition, pick scratches are fine. I'd like a sunburst of some kind, cherry or firetop would be good.

Trying to find one in the $1000 range.

Thanks, Steve
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Steve Davis
Posted 2005-07-26 1:37 PM (#335487 - in reply to #335486)
Subject: Re: Looking for a Gibson Les Paul Standard...


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Steve, have you considered an Orville by Gibson. They are great and in many ways better than some of the Gibsons. The Orville by Gibson (not just the regular Orvilles) have Gibson USA pickups. There is a nice one currently on ebay:

Orville on Ebay
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jyam4
Posted 2005-07-26 1:47 PM (#335488 - in reply to #335486)
Subject: Re: Looking for a Gibson Les Paul Standard...


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That's a nice one, but did you see the shipping costs! But then again, it is coming in from Tokyo.
Joe
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an4340
Posted 2005-07-26 2:32 PM (#335489 - in reply to #335486)
Subject: Re: Looking for a Gibson Les Paul Standard...


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Unless you have your heart set on owning a "Gibson" you might want to try a Fernanedes Ravelle. I've seen them new for less than 600. The one I tried was great! Or you might want to try a Godin Exit 22. Resale value wouldn't be as good, but you're not storing it, you're playing it. I saw a les paul in the musician's friend catalog for 859(?) Just plain mahogany, no fancy paint job (which is more to my taste anyway) If you want something from the Gibson line, try a plain les paul special, that'll be less than 750 new. Ah so many guitars, so little time ....
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Stephen P
Posted 2005-07-27 7:31 AM (#335490 - in reply to #335486)
Subject: Re: Looking for a Gibson Les Paul Standard...


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Are the Orville's higher end than Epiphones but not as expensive as a Gibson?

I've also seen some Gibson Les Paul Studio's go on Ebay for around $500. Has anyone played one of those? If so, how do they play in terms of the standard?

I haven't seen an Orville before (I only thought Gibson made Gibsons and Epiphones), so thanks for the information.
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Steve Davis
Posted 2005-07-27 10:09 AM (#335491 - in reply to #335486)
Subject: Re: Looking for a Gibson Les Paul Standard...


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The Orvilles are same quality as the Epiphone Elitist. They were actually made in the same factory in Japan that makes the Epiphone Elitist.
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Stephen P
Posted 2005-07-27 2:31 PM (#335492 - in reply to #335486)
Subject: Re: Looking for a Gibson Les Paul Standard...


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Than I don't think I want an Orville...but thanks for the suggestion.

Any comments on the Gibson Les Paul Studio's?
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Steve Davis
Posted 2005-07-27 4:24 PM (#335493 - in reply to #335486)
Subject: Re: Looking for a Gibson Les Paul Standard...


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I've heard good things about them. Recently watched a DVD of Gary Moore live and he was playing some pretty mean blues on a LP Studio. Guitartrader.com has on advertised as used, but my experience with them is that they are as good as new.

http://www.guitartrader.com/itempg.icl?orderidentifier=ID1122499193...
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2005-07-27 4:33 PM (#335494 - in reply to #335486)
Subject: Re: Looking for a Gibson Les Paul Standard...


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I think a Studio is just a less dressy version. I was told that the name came from the idea that in the studio you didn't need to have a guitar that looked great, but sounded the same. The local guitar store just sold one in excellent shape for $700.
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Beal
Posted 2005-07-27 4:49 PM (#335495 - in reply to #335486)
Subject: Re: Looking for a Gibson Les Paul Standard...



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get a Hamer instead, better guitar.
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stephent28
Posted 2005-07-27 8:17 PM (#335496 - in reply to #335486)
Subject: Re: Looking for a Gibson Les Paul Standard...



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Gotta agree....get a Hamer. More guitar for the money!
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Stephen P
Posted 2005-07-27 8:38 PM (#335497 - in reply to #335486)
Subject: Re: Looking for a Gibson Les Paul Standard...


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I figured you guys would say that...I have nothing against Hamers, but I really had my eyes set on a Gibson.

As JeffW said it once:
The problem with the young is that; well, they're young.

Thanks for the Studio input.
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Mitchrx
Posted 2005-07-28 1:33 PM (#335498 - in reply to #335486)
Subject: Re: Looking for a Gibson Les Paul Standard...


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Stephen:
Are you familiar with Heritage guitars? The company operates out of the former Gibson factory in Kalamazoo and is owned and operated by former Gibson craftsmen. Quality is supposed to be better than Gibson. The Les Paul model is the H140. There are lots of them on eBay, like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Heritage-Les-Paul-Style-Guitar-USED-NR-Click-ME...
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Stephen P
Posted 2005-07-28 3:44 PM (#335499 - in reply to #335486)
Subject: Re: Looking for a Gibson Les Paul Standard...


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I've been looking, and unfortunately, they don't seem much cheaper than a Les Paul Studio. But I guess they are an afffordable version of the Gibson les Paul Standard.
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Stephen P
Posted 2005-07-29 10:16 AM (#335500 - in reply to #335486)
Subject: Re: Looking for a Gibson Les Paul Standard...


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I've looked into Hamer guitars like some of you guys said, and more guitar for the money my ass.

I'm looking at the prices (Hamer USA) on Ebay and the suggested Retail Price, and those things are more expensive than full blown Gibson Les Pauls!

Now, if one of you guys could get me a Hamer for a low price, that might be a little different, but the Hamer USA's I'm seeing aren't cheap.
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cliff
Posted 2005-07-29 10:28 AM (#335501 - in reply to #335486)
Subject: Re: Looking for a Gibson Les Paul Standard...


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It's more money for a MUCH better guitar.

Hamer started out years ago as a ServiceDepot for Gibson. Basically, they "put right" all of the FactoryF@ckUps that Gibson put out.

Now they build BETTER guitars "RightTheFirstTime".


ysbt.
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Steve Davis
Posted 2005-07-29 10:29 AM (#335502 - in reply to #335486)
Subject: Re: Looking for a Gibson Les Paul Standard...


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Here is another option. My brother has 2 Agiles and says the quality is fantastic. This is his highest end model. Take a look at the features for the money. They are made by Samick.

http://www.rondomusic.net/product402.html
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stephent28
Posted 2005-07-29 11:15 AM (#335503 - in reply to #335486)
Subject: Re: Looking for a Gibson Les Paul Standard...



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Latest musicians friend catalog has all the Gibson models on sale at a pretty good price. Plus the ever popular 12 months same as cash or 30 bucks (roughly) a month payment plan.

Might be an option.
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WeaserP
Posted 2005-07-29 12:09 PM (#335504 - in reply to #335486)
Subject: Re: Looking for a Gibson Les Paul Standard...


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[Ignorance alert!]

ysbt??
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cliff
Posted 2005-07-29 12:17 PM (#335505 - in reply to #335486)
Subject: Re: Looking for a Gibson Les Paul Standard...


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Y'ShouldaBeenThere ;)
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WeaserP
Posted 2005-07-29 12:36 PM (#335506 - in reply to #335486)
Subject: Re: Looking for a Gibson Les Paul Standard...


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Ahh...always nice to be invited to the party. :)
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Waskel
Posted 2005-07-29 12:38 PM (#335507 - in reply to #335486)
Subject: Re: Looking for a Gibson Les Paul Standard...



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Hamer puts out three (3!!!) guitars per day. You would not believe the care and attention to detail that goes into these things.
I have nothing against Gibsons, but these really are a step above.
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an4340
Posted 2005-07-29 12:51 PM (#335508 - in reply to #335486)
Subject: Re: Looking for a Gibson Les Paul Standard...


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You can have Guitar Center order a guitar for you and if you don't like, they take it back. You might want to try the Hamer Sunburst SATQ. It's made overseas and a lot cheaper than the american made models. Some people have them here, and they seem to really like them. My gut says that you have heart set on a Gibson Les Paul Studio, so I say, if you have the money, just go for it! Play it to hell and get that Gibson out of your system. When it comes to guitars, there's no other way to avoid temptation but to give in. I never liked the Gibson tuners though, you'll want to replace them eventually. The rest of it'll be just fine.
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xnoel
Posted 2005-07-29 3:03 PM (#335509 - in reply to #335486)
Subject: Re: Looking for a Gibson Les Paul Standard...


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Stephen,
Check out Al's site LostArt/Vintage Instruments. He has a Hamer Special for $750. If I remember correctly, these are made from a single slab of Mahogany. Check it out.
After recently posting about wanting a USA Hamer, I went ahead and bought one of the offshore Hamers, a goldtop with P90's. It was on eBay, with a finish flaw. StandingOvation had good things to say about a SATQ he had recently bought so I gave it a try. Got it for $202.50. If I had $750 would have bought Al's. Anyway, I have owned a Mex. strat, a Cali. strat, a Nashville tele., admittedly not top of the line Fenders, but this Hamer has them all beat. I can only imagine how good a USA Hamer would be. (If only I could play!)
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stephent28
Posted 2005-07-29 3:07 PM (#335510 - in reply to #335486)
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I also think I remember Cruster mentioning in a recent post that he was going to sell his Hamer.
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