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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | I have no connection to this but it's good to see somebody ask what these things should be worth. | ||
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| bauerhillboy |
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Joined: February 2004 Posts: 1634 Location: Warren,Pa. | What? | ||
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303 Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Josh White at Dream Guitars | ||
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| Old Man Arthur |
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Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777 Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Originally posted by bauerhillboy: Josh White at Dream Guitars...What? | ||
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| MusicMishka |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 5567 Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | wish it were more original....the bridge in particular (or at least a replica replacement)...but it is nice to see it up there with all the high $ gits...'bought time | ||
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| Jeff W. |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039 Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Dream Guitars also has a signed ADII for sale in the preowned section. Two Ovations at Dream Guitars.... the end is near. Al Pettiway playing the ADii | ||
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| Trader Jim |
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Joined: June 2006 Posts: 7307 Location: South of most, North of few | Something's wrong with the Josh, they put a 7 in front of the price for some reason. Maybe that's how many they have. | ||
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| Gallerinski |
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| Joined: May 2008 Posts: 4996 Location: Phoenix AZ | Maybe the Price Police should call Dream Guitars and set them straight that Josh's personal guitar with label hand signed by JR isn't worth what they are asking. | ||
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| Trader Jim |
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Joined: June 2006 Posts: 7307 Location: South of most, North of few | Good idea :rolleyes: | ||
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| Resonant Woody |
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Joined: October 2008 Posts: 39 | I am not in the market right now for a $7M+ guitar, but thanks for the video. Who were the other 2 in the video? I looked at the end, but it was not obvious to me from the short clip. | ||
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| moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15678 Location: SoCal | That's an old Josh White neck put on a newer (late 70's-mid 80's) body. It's a 2 piece top with an overlaid rosette. And what they termed a "repair" is just the non-skid knee area. As somebody correctly pointed out, it's not the original bridge. But that neck and label inside are both from about 1966-7. Look how short the truss rod cover is. TJ's right. Knock off the 7 and it would be closer to the correct price. The neck alone is very very cool. Buy the guitar for a more reasonable price and send it to the factory to have one of the JW reissue bodies put on it and you'd have one helluva guitar....... | ||
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| 2ifbyC |
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| Joined: December 2006 Posts: 6268 Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by moody, p.i.: Whew... I thought that the orig was a shiny bowl, but had my doubts after this thread.newer (late 70's-mid 80's) body. | ||
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| Joined: December 2006 Posts: 6268 Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Dup... | ||
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| Bluebird |
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Joined: May 2002 Posts: 1445 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | Paul; How do you know the body was changed? I thought soneone in one thread stated that the original shiny back had been sprayed with bowl paint at some point. | ||
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| Jonmark Stone |
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Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1562 Location: Indiana | To my eye, I see an inlaid rosette and a shiny bowl in the video. My 2 cents... | ||
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| moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15678 Location: SoCal | Wayne, It might have been sprayed, but why would somebody do that? Also, the rosette is an overlaid rosette and the top is a 2 piece top, not a 3 piece. The bridge is a later bridge as well. All of these say that the body was built at least after 1970, and the sprayed knee area would mean after the mid 1970's, when they stopped using the rubber knee pad (doesn't that sound cheezy or what?) But the neck is definitely old and based on the size of the truss rod cover, I'd say it was a 1966 model. The label reinforces that. But I don't think the label and body were built at the same time. I could be wrong, but I don't think so..... | ||
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| Trader Jim |
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Joined: June 2006 Posts: 7307 Location: South of most, North of few | I don't think so either Paul | ||
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| Bluebird |
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Joined: May 2002 Posts: 1445 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | My '68 Josh has a two piece top but a '66 probably would have the three piece. | ||
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| Jonmark Stone |
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Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1562 Location: Indiana | What do you think? ![]() | ||
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| moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15678 Location: SoCal | I think that's not the same guitar they are selling. Maybe it is the same neck..... | ||
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| Nick B. |
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Joined: December 2009 Posts: 686 Location: Route 66, just east of the Cadillac Ranch | I talked to the lady that owns the guitar and based on our conversation, I'm confident the guitar belonged to Josh White. The owner's family were close friends of Josh's and she has the provenance to support that. I'm of the opinion that the top is original as the three cracks visible on the bass side of the soundhole can be seen in the video on youtube. The jury is still out on exactly what alterations or changes were made to the guitar AFTER it left Josh's hands, i.e. rosette, bridge, bowl, etc. I think the owner has receipts that could answer some if not all of those questions. BTW, the owner is very nice and I'm sure would attempt answer any questions. You can get in touch with her through dreamguitars.com. | ||
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| Jonmark Stone |
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Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1562 Location: Indiana | Just to be clear, I wasn't implying anything sinister. I have a couple of guitars with new bowls/tops and transferred labels. So I assumed that was what had happened here. I guess the bowl could have been sprayed. Be interesting to see if there was an inlayed rosette under the stick on... Weren't there issues with the early inlaid rosettes lifting? | ||
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| moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15678 Location: SoCal | Jm, I've got three Ovations with older necks on newer bodies. Nick, regardless of what was said, I'd be willing to bet that that's not the body that came with that neck..... | ||
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| Nick B. |
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Joined: December 2009 Posts: 686 Location: Route 66, just east of the Cadillac Ranch | Originally posted by Jonmark Stone: I had the exact same thought. At the time, the owner wasn't able to tell me why or exactly when the rosette was replaced.Be interesting to see if there was an inlayed rosette under the stick on... Weren't there issues with the early inlaid rosettes lifting? | ||
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| Nick B. |
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Joined: December 2009 Posts: 686 Location: Route 66, just east of the Cadillac Ranch | Originally posted by moody, p.i.: You're a LOT more experienced than I am in this arena and you very well may be right, however I'd be a coke that the top is original. I can see the 3 cracks in the youtube video and the owner says she has a VHS tape that with better resolution. I would say take it to PBS's "History Detectives," but they've already done one Josh White guitar. :)Nick, regardless of what was said, I'd be willing to bet that that's not the body that came with that neck..... | ||
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