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d.a.n
Posted 2010-01-21 12:26 AM (#381676)
Subject: Help finding a replacement for a stolen Ovation


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I had an Ovation I bought on eBay 10 years ago. I knew very little about it, the auction had no info and bad pictures, but I took a chance. I loved the guitar and have been playing it ever since.

Recently it was stolen out of my car. Not knowing what it was, I had no idea what to tell the insurance company for replacing it. They offered me a small sum for the guitar, but if I can prove a comparable replacement they will cut me a new check.

So I need to find a comparable new Ovation. Here is what I know about the guitar:

1. Flamed top
2. Shallow/C neck
3. Very shallow bowl
4. Hard case
5. Epaullette soundholes

It had a very basic preamp, however I am sure all the preamps on current Ovations are more involved. I would prefer one with a tuner.

I once had someone at a music store remark, Hey, that's an original Adamas! However I thought all the Adamas guitars had graphite tops?

Let me know a guitar that fits the bill, and I'll show the insurance company this thread.
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stephent28
Posted 2010-01-21 1:40 AM (#381677 - in reply to #381676)
Subject: Re: Help finding a replacement for a stolen Ovation



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Do you have ANY pictures from over the past 10 years?
There are some real wizards on this board for identifying guitars from pics.
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d.a.n
Posted 2010-01-21 2:33 AM (#381678 - in reply to #381676)
Subject: Re: Help finding a replacement for a stolen Ovation


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I can probably find one . . . but it would be more helpful to me to find a current guitar that is an adequate replacement, rather than actually IDing what the old guitar was. We are dealing with replacement value, not actual value.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2010-01-21 3:51 AM (#381679 - in reply to #381676)
Subject: Re: Help finding a replacement for a stolen Ovation


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Hi d.a.n,
I'm mostly into electrics, but I'm thinking with the description you provided, you described a significant number of Ovation models. I think we're gonna need a little more description than a flamed top shallow bowl with epi's to help you.
I would suggest going to OvationGuitars.com, find one you like, ask questions about it here, and make a decision from that.
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alpep
Posted 2010-01-21 8:55 AM (#381680 - in reply to #381676)
Subject: Re: Help finding a replacement for a stolen Ovation


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so you have a guitar for 10 years.

no description

no pictures

no model number

no serial number

you want to report it to your insurance

and you want the Ovation fan club to be part of your fraud scheme?????
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MWoody
Posted 2010-01-21 9:00 AM (#381681 - in reply to #381676)
Subject: Re: Help finding a replacement for a stolen Ovation



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Brilliant!

Take a browse through these sites and figure out what you had. If there were two dots on the bridge it was likely a Celebrity line.

www.ovationguitars.com

www.ovationtribute.com
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MusicMishka
Posted 2010-01-21 4:56 PM (#381682 - in reply to #381676)
Subject: Re: Help finding a replacement for a stolen Ovation


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D.A.N., first of all, welcome!
Click on this link :

http://www.ovationguitars.com/?fa=series&sid=349

and then click on each of the guitar models until you find the one you used to own...from your description, it sounds like you may have had an Elite: perhaps an 1868 model. Those were SSB (Super Shallow Bowls - i.e.: thin)...they had different finishes and electronics...take a look and I hope you can find it....
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G8r
Posted 2010-01-21 5:16 PM (#381683 - in reply to #381676)
Subject: Re: Help finding a replacement for a stolen Ovation


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Ah, guess the ground stop is lifted?
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2010-01-21 5:17 PM (#381684 - in reply to #381676)
Subject: Re: Help finding a replacement for a stolen Ovation


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I can't recall a flamed top, SSB Elite. It was very common, however, for Celebrity Deluxes. It took me awhile to spot the differences based upon the end of the fretboard.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2010-01-21 5:46 PM (#381685 - in reply to #381676)
Subject: Re: Help finding a replacement for a stolen Ovation


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Mark, I thought about that...and it could well have been a Celeb...and the fingerboard end would be a clue if he remembers what it looked like (and may be part of the reason why some mistook it for an Adamas)...


Ah, guess the ground stop is lifted?
Ah, good guess!

Yep, when I can type and am not in pain...
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Waskel
Posted 2010-01-21 6:23 PM (#381686 - in reply to #381676)
Subject: Re: Help finding a replacement for a stolen Ovation



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Originally posted by alpep:
so you have a guitar for 10 years.

no description

no pictures

no model number

no serial number

you want to report it to your insurance

and you want the Ovation fan club to be part of your fraud scheme?????
Seriously. You had this guitar for 10 years, "loved it" and never bothered to look in the hole to see what model it was, never managed to get a picture of it and apparently never changed the battery or you would know what preamp was in it.

Are you all so caught up in being 'helpful' that you don't recognize insurance fraud when you see it?
"Let me know a guitar that fits the bill, and I'll show the insurance company this thread."
I bet you will.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-01-21 6:28 PM (#381687 - in reply to #381676)
Subject: Re: Help finding a replacement for a stolen Ovation


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I"m with Al and Psycho on this one....
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Beal
Posted 2010-01-21 6:30 PM (#381688 - in reply to #381676)
Subject: Re: Help finding a replacement for a stolen Ovation



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Oh come on guys be "nice"
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Waskel
Posted 2010-01-21 6:32 PM (#381689 - in reply to #381676)
Subject: Re: Help finding a replacement for a stolen Ovation



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Gosh, you're right, Beal. Sorry, forgot where I was...
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-01-21 6:49 PM (#381690 - in reply to #381676)
Subject: Re: Help finding a replacement for a stolen Ovation


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Hell Beal, I was being nice....
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2010-01-21 6:52 PM (#381691 - in reply to #381676)
Subject: Re: Help finding a replacement for a stolen Ovation



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Aw, what the hey... I gotta say something. My first impression was that this is a Celebrity cuz of the flamed top. Y'all taught me in 2006 that pretty plywood and lots of fret markers is often over compensating for something.
And they way that I learned that was by doing Research on my 4861 before it even arrived on my doorstep! (I miss that guitar) But I still have photos and can tell you all about it.
So if I had a guitar for ten years, I think that I would have more info than that. I can tell you about the Guild that I had in 1975. I can tell you the first three serial numbers of most of my Ovation guitars, and they are listed by year in my sig.

So the Psychotic Wabbit and Al are ahead of all y'all.

So D.A.N... Just go through Guitar Center's catalog and pick the Elite that you want!
I mean, if the insurance company says that they will pay for it... Let's Go Shopping!! :eek: :D
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2010-01-21 7:09 PM (#381692 - in reply to #381676)
Subject: Re: Help finding a replacement for a stolen Ovation


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Lets not going jumping to conclusions... I spent about 15 years thinking I had an "Adamas" when in fact it was my Medallion. Medallion printed on the headstock and everything, but I just figured that was because it was a factory second so they couldn't put the Ovation or Adamas logo on the Headstock. I grew up in CT... Ovation made Adamas guitars. Never even thought about it. It had a round back.. it must be an Adamas.

Years later when I bought my first new Ovation, it was an Adamas II, but I gave Al such a hard time as I wanted it to be a "Real" Ovation and say "Ovation" on the headstock, not Adamas.

I realize I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, but most of you know more about the entire line and history than I know about the guitars I've owned.

For the record, I jumped to the SAME conclusion at first, then thought about MY insurance claims. No Insurance company is going to care what I, you or anyone "sais" a guitar is worth. They just want to see at least one (usually 2 or three) catalog ads of the same guitar with a printed price. It would be so much easier to just pull up the Ovation site, Musician's Friend and one other and say "yep, that's it" and there would be no questions asked. The fact they he came here to ask, tells me, it may be a legit question.

Finally d.a.n., in justification of those who think the worst first... we have had our share of scams here. People telling sob stories about their lost instruments and lifes woes and such... only to have members totally taken advantage of.

So skepticism is warranted to some extent...

Hope you stick around, we'll do what we can to help.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2010-01-21 7:54 PM (#381693 - in reply to #381676)
Subject: Re: Help finding a replacement for a stolen Ovation


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Although I'm normally a skeptic and have no sympathy for people claiming more than they are entitled to, so that the rest of us can pick it up with higher insurance premiums, I'm with Miles on this one. Although I had my Matrix for 30 years, I didn't know the difference between any of the models until I came here. Pretty much everything I know about Ovations is the result of this site.
The reference to an Adamas and upgrading a basic preamp to one with a tuner, however, has to make you wonder about the motives.
Of course, I've also learned a lot of stuff I didn't want to know from this site, like Cliff's shaving habits.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-01-21 8:24 PM (#381694 - in reply to #381676)
Subject: Re: Help finding a replacement for a stolen Ovation


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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
Of course, I've also learned a lot of stuff I didn't want to know from this site, like Cliff's shaving habits.
Let's not go there....
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Gallerinski
Posted 2010-01-21 8:40 PM (#381695 - in reply to #381676)
Subject: Re: Help finding a replacement for a stolen Ovation
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Something about this deal ain't right. CLICK
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Weaser P
Posted 2010-01-21 9:31 PM (#381696 - in reply to #381676)
Subject: Re: Help finding a replacement for a stolen Ovation


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Sorry. Gotta agree with the skeptics as well. You don't love and play a guitar for ten years and not have one picture of it much less not know anything about it. And being more concerned with replacement value than actual? I'm out.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2010-01-21 9:38 PM (#381697 - in reply to #381676)
Subject: Re: Help finding a replacement for a stolen Ovation
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Authorities have been alerted
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Gallerinski
Posted 2010-01-21 9:50 PM (#381698 - in reply to #381676)
Subject: Re: Help finding a replacement for a stolen Ovation
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... suspects up against the wall
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Waskel
Posted 2010-01-21 10:02 PM (#381699 - in reply to #381676)
Subject: Re: Help finding a replacement for a stolen Ovation



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The usual wall?
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FlySig
Posted 2010-01-21 10:05 PM (#381700 - in reply to #381676)
Subject: Re: Help finding a replacement for a stolen Ovation



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I don't know D.A.N. and don't have an informed opinion of his situation. However, I never had a picture of any of my guitars before coming here. I've owned a Yamaha acoustic since age 12 and still have it in the basement. I have no idea what model it is. I owned an Ibanez strat copy for 15 years, not a single picture was taken of it. My beloved Alvarez Yairi 12 string that I bought with my own money in high school never had a picture taken until doing a family portrait last year. Model number? Not a hint of an idea what it is.
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