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| drbassman |
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Joined: January 2010 Posts: 15 | Hi Guys, I'm new here. My first post and now my first Ovation guitar. I just picked up a nice Ovation DS768 longneck. What a beauty. I've very impressed with it. I'm a bass player and have been gassing for a baritone. I've played Fender electric baritones in the past, but this acoustic is a new animal for me. What are my string options for this beast? I want to be able to play in that range between a guitar and bass. It has John Pearse lights on it now and frankly, they just don't have the low end I was looking for. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! | ||
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| cliff |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842 Location: NJ | D'Addario EJ18 ("Heavy" 14-59). | ||
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| drbassman |
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Joined: January 2010 Posts: 15 | So, the D'Addario EJ18 can be tuned down an octave? I did try tuning the Pearse strings down to B and the guitar sounds much more in line with what I expected. | ||
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| cliff |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842 Location: NJ | Check your PM's (PrivateMessages). | ||
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| stephent28 |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303 Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | What Cliff said. You can really get creative and put some 72 cables on but unless you want to really get down below that B2B range I would stick with the EJ18s. | ||
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| Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | The guitar was designed to be tuned D to D. You can put the strings Cliff mentioned and go C to C, that works. I always found B to B a bit low what what the hell do I know, I just used to run a gas station. | ||
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| drbassman |
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Joined: January 2010 Posts: 15 | Thanks Cliff and Stephen. Interesting experiments that I just might try. I hear ya Beal, I tried the D to D tuning and it's OK, but I have lower aspirations for this guitar. One step down ain't much in my view. I am liking the B to B thus far. That might just work for me. It's hell being a bassist and hearing everything through that filter. | ||
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| Jonmark Stone |
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Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1562 Location: Indiana | Tuning a longneck to B may cause a ripple in the space/time continuum. Proceed with caution. | ||
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| drbassman |
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Joined: January 2010 Posts: 15 | Originally posted by Jonmark Stone: Whew, you scared me! I was afraid you were gonna say it would cause a ripple in the spruce top! Time-space I can handle since I can't do anything about it, or infinity, for that matter!Tuning a longneck to B may cause a ripple in the space/time continuum. Proceed with caution. | ||
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| Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | The only problem you're going to run into is the thickness of the bass string that will fit through the bridge. You could probably runa 62-16 set. Matt Smith has had some 72 strings made and they get too fat with the wrap at the ball end to fit into the bridge properly. | ||
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| Waskel |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840 Location: closely held secret | But they do make great tow cables... | ||
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| drbassman |
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Joined: January 2010 Posts: 15 | Originally posted by PsychoBunny: Good point Beal, I'll check that out. But they do make great tow cables... I've been playing it tuned down to B and I'm liking the low growl it's putting out. Gonna mess with it more today. "B" might be the way to go for me! The strings aren't too floppy either, just loose enough for some nice bending and an easy low tension when fretting. I'm just not happy with the tone when tuned to D. As for tow cables, you ought to see the 105's on some of my basses! Here's one I just finished building a couple months ago.......... I'm working on a design similar to this for a semi-hollow electric baritone using a 30" neck and Fender Bass VI strings. | ||
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| drbassman |
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Joined: January 2010 Posts: 15 | I'll post some pictures of the longneck later today! | ||
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| drbassman |
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Joined: January 2010 Posts: 15 | Originally posted by Beal: Thanks, I might give the 62-16 set a try. I'm not anxious to enlarge the bridge channels at this stage!The only problem you're going to run into is the thickness of the bass string that will fit through the bridge. You could probably runa 62-16 set. Matt Smith has had some 72 strings made and they get too fat with the wrap at the ball end to fit into the bridge properly. | ||
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| drbassman |
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Joined: January 2010 Posts: 15 | Here she is!!! Except for one very small ding on the top, she looks brand new. ![]() | ||
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| stonebobbo |
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Joined: August 2002 Posts: 8307 Location: Tennessee | I used to have one just like that. Nice guitar. Enjoy it. FWIW, I also found it sounded best strung B to B. | ||
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| drbassman |
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Joined: January 2010 Posts: 15 | Originally posted by stonebobbo: Yeah, it's a beauty and it does sound so good. I agree, B to B works well on this guitar.I used to have one just like that. Nice guitar. Enjoy it. FWIW, I also found it sounded best strung B to B. | ||
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| 2ifbyC |
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| Joined: December 2006 Posts: 6268 Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Unique bass ya built there! Great job... | ||
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| Darkbar |
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Joined: January 2009 Posts: 4535 Location: Flahdaw | I can't wait to try one of those longnecks. For me, B2B with a capo at the 2nd fret would work great for my vocal range and to bring the action down a bit. How are these things for fingerpicking with those heavy strings? | ||
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| G8r |
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Joined: November 2006 Posts: 3969 | Originally posted by dark bar: Beal - bring your 2080D...(and don't forget the 75)I can't wait to try one of those longnecks. For me, B2B with a capo at the 2nd fret would work great for my vocal range and to bring the action down a bit. How are these things for fingerpicking with those heavy strings? | ||
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| drbassman |
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Joined: January 2010 Posts: 15 | Originally posted by 2ifbyC: Thanks, it's a Ric 4005 tribute. Can't afford a vintage one, so I did something for myself. I'm a hobby builder, just do them for my own edification and use.Unique bass ya built there! Great job... | ||
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| drbassman |
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Joined: January 2010 Posts: 15 | Originally posted by dark bar: The string set on there now isn't a heavy set (I need to get my calipers out and measure them tonight). They look like regular medium gauge guitar strings to me. I might put a heavy set on tonight or tomorrow. I'll report on it if I do.I can't wait to try one of those longnecks. For me, B2B with a capo at the 2nd fret would work great for my vocal range and to bring the action down a bit. How are these things for fingerpicking with those heavy strings? | ||
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| drbassman |
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Joined: January 2010 Posts: 15 | I measured the strings and they are a 56-14 set, so nothing beefy really. I might move up to a 62-16 like Beal suggested just to hear and feel the difference. | ||
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| drbassman |
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Joined: January 2010 Posts: 15 | OK, I've been looking at baritone strings and while I know some of them (68 or higher) might require that I enlarge the bridge channel to accommodate that size, I wouldn't be adverse to doing something like that. I have the tools and have done crazier things. I guess the one thing I'd like to know is how much string tension can the bridge handle? If I wanted to put a set of 68-14 or 70-12's on it and tune to E, as the set was designed to do, would the bridge hold up (or on!)? I'd really like to learn more about the bridge capacity on the longnecks. | ||
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| Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | don't go to E | ||
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Ovation Longneck questions