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MWoody

Posted 2010-01-10 1:26 AM (#383290)
Subject: Where to put the Hole(s)?

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I have used the Elite/Adamas style of bracing but I want some opinions on where to punch the sound holes.

Option A: Put the holes on the sides and keep the top clean.

Option B: Nearly 2007 Collector's Style.

Option C: Long Oval Pairs.

Option D: Short Ovals.

Option E: Oval Pairs.

Option F: Suggest your own...

tremor

Posted 2010-01-10 1:52 AM (#383291 - in reply to #383290)
Subject: Re: Where to put the Hole(s)?

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I think I like the short ovals.

stephent28

Posted 2010-01-10 2:05 AM (#383292 - in reply to #383290)
Subject: Re: Where to put the Hole(s)?

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Paired ovals for me.

FlicKreno aka Solid Top

Posted 2010-01-10 3:21 AM (#383293 - in reply to #383290)
Subject: Re: Where to put the Hole(s)?

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The REGULAR Elite Style is Best .. the rest looks like " Scary Movie " to me ..

Trader Jim

Posted 2010-01-10 6:11 AM (#383294 - in reply to #383290)
Subject: Re: Where to put the Hole(s)?

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Originally posted by stephent28:
Paired ovals for me.

Old Man Arthur

Posted 2010-01-10 6:19 AM (#383295 - in reply to #383290)
Subject: Re: Where to put the Hole(s)?

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Just don't do one of them 2080 tear-drop/Nike/cat's-eye thingies.

gangonthehill

Posted 2010-01-10 7:31 AM (#383296 - in reply to #383290)
Subject: Re: Where to put the Hole(s)?

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07 collectors is my vote.

twistedlim

Posted 2010-01-10 7:33 AM (#383297 - in reply to #383290)
Subject: Re: Where to put the Hole(s)?

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Originally posted by Trader Jim:

Originally posted by stephent28:
Paired ovals for me.
+1

AlanM

Posted 2010-01-10 7:49 AM (#383298 - in reply to #383290)
Subject: Re: Where to put the Hole(s)?

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Oval pairs for greater sound balance.

Slipkid

Posted 2010-01-10 7:52 AM (#383299 - in reply to #383290)
Subject: Re: Where to put the Hole(s)?

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Again, paired ovals.
They look different enough but still look "right".

Capo Guy

Posted 2010-01-10 8:21 AM (#383300 - in reply to #383290)
Subject: Re: Where to put the Hole(s)?

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Originally posted by twistedlim:

Originally posted by Trader Jim:

Originally posted by stephent28:
Paired ovals for me.
+1
+2

nikon4004

Posted 2010-01-10 9:11 AM (#383301 - in reply to #383290)
Subject: Re: Where to put the Hole(s)?

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Ow boutthe Nike Swoosh. Maybe yo can get Tiger whats his name to endose it....

Steve

FlySig

Posted 2010-01-10 11:14 AM (#383302 - in reply to #383290)
Subject: Re: Where to put the Hole(s)?

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Small ovals do it for me.

MWoody

Posted 2010-01-10 11:44 AM (#383303 - in reply to #383290)
Subject: Re: Where to put the Hole(s)?

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"Elite Style is Best .. the rest looks like " Scary Movie " to me ..."

Any Princess Mononoke fans out there?

cholloway

Posted 2010-01-10 11:49 AM (#383304 - in reply to #383290)
Subject: Re: Where to put the Hole(s)?

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What would the paddle shape of the head look like as a sound hole?

Maybe the guitar shaped "O" used on the cases?

ehhh... nevermind!

Beal

Posted 2010-01-10 12:32 PM (#383305 - in reply to #383290)
Subject: Re: Where to put the Hole(s)?

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all the ovals are light in the loafers.

2ifbyC

Posted 2010-01-10 1:00 PM (#383306 - in reply to #383290)
Subject: Re: Where to put the Hole(s)?

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Originally posted by Beal:
all the ovals are light in the loafers.

OK, how 'bout a Rambo version...

Jimbob

Posted 2010-01-10 1:01 PM (#383307 - in reply to #383290)
Subject: Re: Where to put the Hole(s)?

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Hello MWoody,
A question for the experts. What is the percentage area of the soundhole(s) in relation to the total area of the soundboard please.?
I have an idea for something a little different.
Jim

MWoody

Posted 2010-01-10 1:02 PM (#383308 - in reply to #383290)
Subject: Re: Where to put the Hole(s)?

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Reminds me W2, I was looking at some of the early Nationals (I think) and I saw the predecessor to your Thunderbolt theme. Not my favorite but definately stepping out.

RE:"What is the percentage area of the soundhole(s) in relation to the total area of the soundboard please.?"

You would have to research Hiemholtz Law as there is a ratio od chamber volume, surface area and tone through the open hole.

Off hand, I'd say 18:1 until a better answer shows up.

Waskel

Posted 2010-01-10 1:18 PM (#383309 - in reply to #383290)
Subject: Re: Where to put the Hole(s)?

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Wonder what would happen if you put the hole(s) south of the bridge...

Jimbob

Posted 2010-01-10 1:27 PM (#383310 - in reply to #383290)
Subject: Re: Where to put the Hole(s)?

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Originally posted by MWoody:

RE:"What is the percentage area of the soundhole(s) in relation to the total area of the soundboard please.?"
You would have to research Hiemholtz Law as there is a ratio od chamber volume, surface area and tone through the open hole.
Off hand, I'd say 18:1 until a better answer shows up.

Thank you, now for my old brain to figure the area of circle(x)the depth. Gotta go digging in archives, perhaps it's already been calculated for the volume of the bowl.
Jim.

MWoody

Posted 2010-01-10 1:36 PM (#383311 - in reply to #383290)
Subject: Re: Where to put the Hole(s)?

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That thar is prime soundboard territory, no drill'in allowed!

Although...

some of the Archtops like this D'Aquisto Centura went pretty low.

Waskel

Posted 2010-01-10 1:42 PM (#383312 - in reply to #383290)
Subject: Re: Where to put the Hole(s)?

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Mike, are you using an Ovation bowl for this project?

MWoody

Posted 2010-01-10 1:48 PM (#383313 - in reply to #383290)
Subject: Re: Where to put the Hole(s)?

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Yes

bvince

Posted 2010-01-10 2:41 PM (#383314 - in reply to #383290)
Subject: Re: Where to put the Hole(s)?

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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :)

Here's another option ... The location worked well for the McPhersons ...

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