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Posted 2009-12-23 4:53 AM (#385684)
Subject: Question about classicals

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Hi there I am new here...

Are there any strongly favored classical models?

That would be specifically for amplified playing

Also, any classical models in black?

Reasonable prices for each used?

Thanks for your help!

Steve
stegre@aol.com

Michael R. Winters

Posted 2009-12-23 6:19 AM (#385685 - in reply to #385684)
Subject: Re: Question about classicals

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Do you mean nylon stringed O's or other makes?

Michael R. Winters

Posted 2009-12-23 6:19 AM (#385686 - in reply to #385684)
Subject: Re: Question about classicals

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Oh yeah, Welcome to the site, sorry.

seesquare

Posted 2009-12-23 9:19 AM (#385687 - in reply to #385684)
Subject: Re: Question about classicals

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Just rehabbed a CC-059. Shallow-bowl, single-cutaway, classical, with an OP-10 Applause preamp. Pretty much fits your description. New ones are about $400.00, but have an OP20 preamp.
Now, if you want a REAL nice classical, go for a 1773. A bit more spendy, though.

dweezil

Posted 2009-12-23 9:29 AM (#385688 - in reply to #385684)
Subject: Re: Question about classicals

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1763 ?

Can be had for $500-700 or so...

bvince

Posted 2009-12-23 9:32 AM (#385689 - in reply to #385684)
Subject: Re: Question about classicals

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The older Ovation Concert Classic models are pretty nice. (nice pic there Dweeze) I used to own one, and I easily upgraded the electronics to the OP24 since the original electronics were not working. There were a couple different models over the years but this is the one I had (link below), and it had a deep bowl (which I preferred). It was built like a tank, but was a bit heavy for me when compared to a traditional classical.(I also really like the scrolled fretboard termination) I finally found a nice compromise in the Country Artist and enjoy the narrower neck for my stubby fingers. Ovation Classical from the Ovation Archives page

Posted 2009-12-23 11:45 AM (#385690 - in reply to #385684)
Subject: Re: Question about classicals

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The Country Artist sounds like a good compromise, I could not handle a 2" width.

Did they make any in black?

All my other stage guitars are black, including my Ovation 6 and 12

Model Number?...

Also how to buy the preamps seperately,? Sorry I am new.

Steve

numbfingers

Posted 2009-12-23 12:03 PM (#385691 - in reply to #385684)
Subject: Re: Question about classicals

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This current thread has some info, looks like we've identified a 1624 Country Artist: http://www.ovationfanclub.com/cgi-bin/ubb/non-cgi/ultimatebb.php?ub...

There are some later versions (6773? 6773LX?) that have a cutaway and usually sell for a bit more.

Dunno if they made black ones. edit: here's a lefty example: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Custom-Lefty-Ovation-6773-Country-Artist-Left...

-Steve W.

Posted 2009-12-23 12:19 PM (#385692 - in reply to #385684)
Subject: Re: Question about classicals

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A/E nylon menu:

Lotsa flavors...

Sorry, I don't have the nut width info handy.

bvince

Posted 2009-12-23 2:33 PM (#385693 - in reply to #385684)
Subject: Re: Question about classicals

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You could probably special order the 6773LX in black through Al (aka, alpep) because it only comes standard with the natural finish. It also comes with one of the latest OpPro Studio pickup (probably the best one made so far). If you needed to go used and you could get one cheap enough(good luck on that one), you may be able to send it to the factory for a paint job. It may sound crazy to them though, with the tortise rossette.

noah

Posted 2009-12-23 3:58 PM (#385694 - in reply to #385684)
Subject: Re: Question about classicals

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Welcome Steve!
Where are you in California?

Classical or just nylon strung?
Current offerings from Ovation in the Classical area are the 1773LX mid-depth bowl and it's brother, the 2073LX deep contour bowl. Their nuts are 1 7/8".

If you are looking for a nylon strung stage guitar, maybe you want to find an EA63.
The EA63 has a chambered solid body (Godin also makes a comparable).
They also painted them black. One of the guys had this one made with a satin finish.

I have an EA63 and a Godin here and Moody has a custom 1773LX. If you are close, you can check them out. Well... Moody is usually friendly.

Posted 2009-12-23 4:08 PM (#385695 - in reply to #385684)
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Originally posted by noah:
Moody is usually friendly.

Gotta love oxymorons!

Posted 2009-12-24 1:54 PM (#385696 - in reply to #385684)
Subject: Re: Question about classicals

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I am in Riverside , I have the Godin but not particularly in love with it. It is too heavy.... and the sound is marginal

noah

Posted 2009-12-24 4:20 PM (#385697 - in reply to #385684)
Subject: Re: Question about classicals

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Steve, I'd talk to Sergio Lara (Country Artist on the OFC) about nylon strung Ovations and Godins.
He does not mention Ovations in this Godin interview, but he plays them.

Posted 2009-12-26 11:28 AM (#385698 - in reply to #385684)
Subject: Re: Question about classicals

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OK, picked up a 6773 for $500. One minor scratch on the top but other than that very nice OP-X preamp.

Is $500 a good deal.....???

Posted 2009-12-26 11:41 AM (#385699 - in reply to #385684)
Subject: Re: Question about classicals

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Originally posted by stegre:
Is $500 a good deal.....???

I would say yes. This is one I'd like to try someday.

Posted 2009-12-26 1:04 PM (#385700 - in reply to #385684)
Subject: Re: Question about classicals

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Johnny, here's another to add to your spread sheet ... this is my 1116-4. I love that little curl over the rosette:

;)
Willa

Posted 2009-12-26 6:56 PM (#385701 - in reply to #385684)
Subject: Re: Question about classicals

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Originally posted by WillaMuse:
Johnny, here's another to add to your spread sheet

Willa,

I do have yours on the master database. stegre asked about the A/Es.

Here are the acoustics:

1113 Classic -NO - DEEP - Slothead
1116 Concert Classic - NO - DEEP - Slothead
1123 Artist - NO - Artist - PegHead

Yours looks primo!

Posted 2009-12-26 7:59 PM (#385702 - in reply to #385684)
Subject: Re: Question about classicals

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Noah, I love your EA 63, and I wanted Patch's CA, but I ran out of moolah!

Vince, I wish I still had my 1116-4 (shown above in my last post) and would love to get hold of another one to keep. I gave mine to my ex husband and I regret it still. I hate to admit it, but he just made it sound so lovely, I handed her right over. You are right, it was a real "El Kabong", but I actually sort of like that big fat, flat neck TANK of a guitar.

At least I have the beauty I got from JM (Thanks so much, Mitz!), which I LOVE and played Christmas songs on all week! It'a a shiny bowl and like a feather compared to the 1116-4. Hope I can pick up another 1116-4 someday in the same perfect condition as the one I had. :(

;)
Willa

Posted 2009-12-26 8:17 PM (#385703 - in reply to #385684)
Subject: Re: Question about classicals

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Iffy, so I see my boo boo; sorry 'bout that. I should have known you'd be on top of them all, lol!

Willa

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Posted 2009-12-26 10:05 PM (#385704 - in reply to #385684)
Subject: Re: Question about classicals

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Hey Willa, did you see this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-OVATION-1116-4-12-STRING-GUITAR-WITH-CA...

Posted 2009-12-26 11:05 PM (#385705 - in reply to #385684)
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Thanks, Sleepy Bones! Funny thing is, he has it listed as a 12 'er ...

;)
Willa

Posted 2009-12-26 11:13 PM (#385706 - in reply to #385684)
Subject: Re: Question about classicals

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Whoa, some of those tuna shafts look like a birdnested fishing reel! :eek:

Posted 2009-12-26 11:25 PM (#385707 - in reply to #385684)
Subject: Re: Question about classicals

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Yikes, Paul ... and it has the wrong strings on it ... not to mention they look like they've been on there since it left the factory (groan) ... would like to hope the neck isn't all screwed up. Phooey!

Willa