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Location: Michigan | did the drugs make these songs sound better :confused: :confused: :confused:
i still like them and think that they are every bit as good as if not better than songs that are made today.
what do you think :confused: :confused:GWB
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Location: closely held secret | The songs made the drugs sound better. |
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| Originally posted by guitarwannabee:
did the drugs make these songs sound better :confused: :confused: :confused:
i still like them and think that they are every bit as good as if not better than songs that are made today. A lot of that music was complete crap and you'd need to be whacked on dope or just plain stupid to put up with it. So yeah, some of it needed all the help it could get but some of it was pretty good on its own.
There's no question that hash or pot alters your perception of music and that can be beneficial because it lets you hear how it can be heard and after that you don't need the dope anymore because now you know.
That said though, powerful music has always knocked my socks off from day one so I didn't really need to get whacked out in order to hear it but I can understand how getting stoned might help some people break through the cement in their heads for a short period of time anyway until their brains start silting in from the drugs. |
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Location: SoCal | Nothing could make disco sound good..... |
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Location: Michigan | moody where are you hiding your leisure suit at :eek: .
the six million dollar man made those popular.GWB |
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| Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Nothing could make disco sound good..... That crap doesn't count as music..lol |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | For good, bad or indifferent I missed the whole drug culture. I was always hanging out with older kids who it partying were just drinking. The legal age was 18 back then. I was bonded in '76 for a security job and joined the Navy in '77 in the Cryptologic field so I just wasn't exposed to it... But... and this is by no means an endorsement... but I think a lot of really good music came about because the musicians were stoned and just tried things in music that hadn't been done before. Sure, after they sobered up a lot of it was crap... but at the same time.. there must have been a lot of "wow... that was pretty cool... let's see if we can do that again"... or... they were in a studio and the tape was just rolling... and something brilliant came out that maybe would not have under normal sober circumstances..
Remember in the 60's thru the 80's it was quite common for a band to go into a studio to "create" an album. Sometimes they'd get a "band house" and build a studio to create an album. It was a working party... time and money were not worries... being creative was the goal and whatever it took to get there.
That technique faded in the 90's and is almost completely gone today. All replaced by scheduling and deadlines and contracts. |
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| Reminds me of a comment from someone in Pink Floyd saying that during their early days they would stand around playing Em, Am for about an hour..lol |
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Location: east coast usa | I think it really depends on the song and the drug. i.e. smokin a joint made Bob Dylans voice make sense...lol doin blotter took pink floyd or emerson lake and palmer or yes to the next level. Im so glad i survived....  |
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| Best and most effective music I've ever heard is when I'm stone cold sober. |
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Location: Michigan | I was 10 in 1969.... |
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Location: Cork, Ireland | If we believe the media, today's musicians are equally prone to drug abuse. Are the drugs making the songs sound better now? |
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Location: Colorado | I was 10 in 1969....
I was two. Missed out I guess. Then again, maybe not. |
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Location: NJ | some were very inspired and creative with the use of mind altering substances. No matter the genre rock jazz blues classical.
the problem often was the when people try to perform while high the performance is less than stellar. what was often happened was a union of experience where the substances played a part in the overall concept.
some great stuff came out of it some not so great. just like any sober musician |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | This was absolutely my time, but I was not part of it. I was too serious about school and developing a real career, and just had too much to do to get involved in drugs. I totally agree with Al. Attending a concert where the performers were stoned and your weren't wasn't all that enjoyable. |
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Location: Michigan | its like the popular drugs of the sixties and seventies were weed and l.s.d. and they seemed to have a part in the creativity of music but after that era came cocaine crank crack heroin and i don't think those kind of drugs brought any creativness to the music.actually it ended the lives of allot of the great musicians of that 60-70s era.
but then again what about curt kobain , he was thought as a great musician and heroin was his choice.GWB |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | by twistedlim:
I was 10 in 1969.... I was 12, and still managed to go to a riot and smoke pot at a commune in Baltimore!
(All in one Day)
I read this last night... "I'm not ashamed of being stoned", Crosby once said. "I was stoned for every bit of music I've ever played. Every record, every performance. If they can match the music, let them criticize it. Anybody who can't ain't got no fuckin' right to tell me nothin' about gettin' high." [Great Grammar]
There is alot of stuff that I listened to when I was young and stoned that sounds like crap now.
But that is with the 20/20 hindsight of age. At that moment that music might have been A LOT better than anything else on the Top 40 Radio of the time.
Also, there is some music you might like because of Where you heard it... Y'know?
Oh Yeah... The drugs were Better back then!
Even Keith quit doing drugs cuz the drugs suck nowadays! :eek:
-oo, oo, Wish You Were Here is playing- :cool: |
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Location: Vernon CT | If some think "better" music came out of the 60's/70's (I'll say early 70's) because of Drugs, then fine, all I know is back then, you bought an album and most of the deeper tracks were better then the "hit" you heard on FM radio. It's been a looong times since I've bought an Album because the last few I bought after the "big" hit or maybe 1-2 more the rest of the tracks sucked! If we want to attribute that to drugs, then fine, I think it was more then that. I'll leave it at that. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Al wrote: the problem often was the when people try to perform while high the performance is less than stellar. Al you have hit the nail on the head...my band found out the hard way about that: we survived but I never forgot the feeling and the embarrassment...lucky we didn't get fired. Drugs and alcohol are absolutely no substitute for practice and building skills... |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | I never got into that 'scene', but yet enjoyed much of the music from those periods. Would the Beatles have gone as far as they did without the influence?
I sure was hoping that there would have been an unanimous 'yes' vote on this topic. At my age, I'm looking for something to make my playing sound better without practicing... 
Ummm, let's see, '69... was 22 with four years in the USAF, got married in Denver, was savagely attacked by my first ski slope, saw PP&M at Red Rocks Theater, attended the Pike's Peak Hill Climb... great year!  |
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Location: Denmark | IMhO the psychedelic approach to music was introvert rather that extrovert. I dont believe that drugs per se have done any good to music per se. But it was breaking way for a new way of digesting the music. Today the intro- and extrovert approaches are combined in the more recent concept of "Total Experience". I believe that many musicians take this or that for personal reasons and it has not been confined to '60s or '70s. Several prominent musicians and interpreters have been close to substances of different kinds. Neither Holiday nor Parker died from old age alone.
I have no personal experience with drugs other than my elder brother smoked something which as I recall made them fall asleep while listening to psychedelic music - but may the sleep did them good. |
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drug induced sixties/seventies music did drugs make it sound better??
