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| The ToneRite device was discussed earlier , and several here said they were interested. I've had a nice conversation with Ryan, the CEO, and he's willing to sell them to me at $149 with no tax & no shipping, since I'll be picking them up personally and delivering them out of state to those attending the Smokies Southen Style Jam.
I have the PMs from those who initially expressed interest, but please re-confirm your intent to buy by PM. I need to give Ryan a bit of lead time to make sure he has enough stock on hand that I can pick up. I'll be a trusting soul and not ask for payment until I hand them over to you at the cabin - checks are OK, I know where most of you live ;) |
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Location: SoCal | This is an interesting device on an old concept. If I had the extra cash I'd get one just for the hell of it. I remember reading somewhere that when John Stewart got a new guitar, he's set it in front of his stereo for the first week and play the stereo at top volume just to get the top vibrating (bet his neighbors loved him!). In a week, the guitar would sound like an old broken in guitar....
Unless somebody wants to loan me one, I'll do it the old fashioned way and just play the hell out of my guitars....... |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | All better now. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | I have owned one of these for about 6 months now and it has been in constant use, rotating through all my guitars from the Adamas, Baxendale, Bourgeois, Collings, Froggy Bottoms, Takamines, 6 string or 12 etc., and EVERY SINGLE GUITAR has shown some level of improvement.
This IMHO is probably the best guitar accessory I have ever purchased and well worth the $149 asking price.
I have actually been toying with the idea of getting a 2nd unit so that I can get more guitars into a quicker rotation.
One treatment works.....
Two treatments work better....
Three treatments still show improvement....
Mine are currently on a 1 week treatment on the lowest setting and I will continue to do this until the unit breaks down. This mean each guitar will get a booster shot approximately twice a year.
HIGHLY RECOMMENDED! |
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Location: Right now? | I'll do it the old fashioned way and just play the hell out of my guitars.......
Me, too!
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Location: SoCal | s28, why do the guitars need a booster shot twice a year? Once they've opened up they should close again. The website made mention of this as well.... |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Why does a 50 year old guitar typically sound better than a 5 year old guitar.
I assume that a guitar may not close up again but it can continue to open up even more over time.
Probably doesn't need a booster but if you got one (TR) why not use it.
At worse case no change but if by chance it adds another 6 months of sound aging to the guitar then I (and the guitar)are better off for it.
Paul, you should go over to the Collings site and read the 2-3 separate threads on the tonerite. Even some of the biggest doubters (and those who said they would rather break it in over 10 years by playing it) tried it and were amazed by the results.
Amazing product for the price. |
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Location: SoCal | I'm not doubting it Stephen, in the least. I just said that I can't afford it right now. Big differnce. Wanna send me yours for a couple of weeks? I'll use it. I've got about 5 guitars that would each get 3 days with it. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | I'm gonna be away starting mid-Sept for a little bit.
You wanna pay postage, I'll be happy to send it to you for 2-3 weeks.....say return it sometime in the first week of October. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | I'll do it the old fashioned way and just play the hell out of my guitars.......
Reminds me of the joke about a pastor who made Holy water the old fashioned way...he got a pot of water from the faucet, put it on the stove, and boiled the hell out of it...
In any case, I prefer to play my guitars...most of mine are already broken in or sound great already...
Whatever floats your boat...
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by MusicMishka:
...most of mine are already broken in or sound great already...
That's exactly what a bunch of the players on the Collings site said....until they took advantage of the 30-day money back guarantee or borrowed one from another member.
They were truly shocked that guitars they thought sounded fantastic from 10-20 years of playing ended up sounding even better.
but it doesn't really matter to me....I am just passing on information on a product that I think really works. Will never sell mine and might even pick up another.
At my age, I don't have 25 years to break in a new guitar. If this will speed of the process 10 fold, then I can enjoy the sound while I am still kickin!
and I don't understand the comments about "I would rather play mine". How does this keep anyone from playing their guitar? Even if you ONLY HAD ONE, all you would do is use the tonerite at night while you were sleeping and then reap the rewards the next day when you actually played it. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Hey Stephen, if it works, thats cool...I'm in no hurry and if not me than the kids can continue since most will go to them anyway...
I'm sure its good for some...I'm cool with that...I truly have no guitars that are in need...even the new '09 Tak Ltd sounds really great and records fantastic...the Martins are awesome...A's and O's are great, and we all know that the Taylors sing ( :rolleyes: :p ); solidbodies need nothing...
As I said, whatever floats your boat is cool...
The concept of spending 4 to 7 K and needing a $149 booster is just new to me...thats all...if it works, great! Maybe Robert Taylor could include one with every new guitar sold...lol |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by stephent28:
I'm gonna be away starting mid-Sept for a little bit.
You wanna pay postage, I'll be happy to send it to you for 2-3 weeks.....say return it sometime in the first week of October. We'll talk.... |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Paul, take him up on the offer.
I got one and they all sound better after coming off the 72 hour "vibe". Some a lot and some just a little. It would be interesting to see how Ovations do on this thing.
As far as older guitars, they can go to sleep, so this is a good way to wake them back up. |
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Location: NW of Philadelphia | Do they make one that I can wear? My guitars are not the problem. :D |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | Originally posted by Auriemma:
Do they make one that I can wear? My guitars are not the problem. :D  |
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Location: Utah | Do they still make the "magic fingers" bed vibrator? I remember being a little kid on family vacations in the 60's and those things being in motels. We'd beg the parents for some coins to feed it. Now that I think about it, It makes me wonder about my parents' choice of motels. |
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Location: Michigan | Stephen,
I will be curious to see how this works with our "plastic backed" guitars. From the webesite:
"In a general sense the ToneRite® works by releasing the inherent stress in a system via de-dampening. Fine acoustic instruments are built from many pieces of wood and material being glued and bound together."
My question is that an Ovation with only the top and bracing being wood, would that much of a difference be shown? I can see where a wood guitar where the sides are basically bent and glued would contain a lot of stress but how about the top and bracing alone? Yes, there is always stress in the tops I guess (re: stress cracks in the tops of many "o"s) but it seems like the majority of the stress in a guitar would be from the sides that are shaped and bent in a form and then held into place by the top and bottom. Anyway, just rambling here, but please let us know the results. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Well, I no longer have any woodtop O's (just Admaii) but I have put it on the 2080D twins and I noticed an improvement.....maybe not as much as a woodtop but it was still there.
The 2080D's have only had a single treatment and I have noticed that while all the guitars have shown some initial improvement, it seems some of them really begin to open up and shine after a 2nd treatment.
In some cases, the boat I float has gone from a canoe to a yacht. ;) |
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Location: Michigan | I just got off the phone with a very nice guy from tonerite. He said they have never tried them on a wood topped "O". Also he said the the product works on impoving the coordination between the various pieces of wood that make up a guitar (I think that is what he said). That said with only the top being affected he did not know what to expect. The question he had, was if people here who have owned ovations for long periods have noticed a significat improvement over time by playing the guitar. If that is the case, the product should work accordingly.
He did also remind me of the 30 day return policy so there is not much to gamble if if does not work. |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Hey, for a buck fifty, I'll give it a try.
If nothing else, I can put it on the Rogue as a structural integrity experiment... |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | OK, I decided to read up on this: I truly had never heard of it before...sounds like it should work: the science is good and what the heck...
I can't aford it right now (any wonder why? lol) but I'll look into one... |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Mike, you mean you were doin all that naysaying and hadn't even researched it!
SHAME ON YOU!
If nobody has one around you that you can borrow by the time Paul sends me mine back (October sumptin) I will let you borrow mine for a test drive....
but to be honest, with a 30 day MBG and the folks only a phone call away, it just makes sense to give them some business so they will continue to make this fine product. |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | I am a firm believer that tops open up over time because of the vibration. Using a device like this (or placing the guitar in front of a loud speaker) most likely has the same effect.
Now the bit that concerns me is that I recall Mr. Godin giving a speech about this very subject and suggested that certain styles of playing opened up the top differently! Hmmm. Now if thats the case then a device like this whilst it probably works may open the guitar top in a different way to the style of music you play on it. Perhaps the effects are minor I thought I'd mention it.
My 07C has certainly opened up since I've had it. The 06C seems te be slower to open up (perhaps cos I play it slightly less) but I'm seriously thinking of at least trying one of these devices as an experinment to prove to myself one way or the other whether it really works. |
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ToneRite Revisited - Anyone wanting to purchase
