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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Has anybody seen one of THESE?
What y'all think?
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Location: Cicero, NY | I would LOVE to hear it but I really like what I see...unfortunately, at that price, I think there's a very limited market. |
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Location: Central Massachusetts | I think there are pics in another thread of Al playing that guitar. Like Weaser, I like the look of it. Wonder if it's got a suspension ring.
I think it's a fair price for a pretty-close-to-if-not-completely-one-of-a-kind Adamas with a hand-laid bowl. Unfortunately out of my price range at the moment. |
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Location: California | I like it! |
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Location: Tuscany, Italy | Nice one. However I do not think it sound much different than a 2080..... |
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Location: NJ | it did sound very nice |
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Location: SoCal | You know, an original style headstock with that kind of inlay would have looked really good..... |
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Location: Jet City | 2080 sound hole was cooler |
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Location: Milano, ITALY | It can be an interesting instrument (surely not as interesting as the Q), but that headstock is definitely NOT anything I can approve on a guitar called Ovation. |
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Location: Canada | I think it looks nice and I am glad they didn't mess with the bridge. How many would have been made in the short time before factory closing? |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | That one might be the only one...
The listing states:
Check out this amazing prototype Ovation Adamas that we noticed at NAMM '14, and knew right away we couldn't live without it. This was made in the Ovation USA Custom Shop factory, which some of you may have heard is closing. Which means the USA ovation guitars are going to start becoming more and more rare. Don't miss out on this opportunity to own a piece of Ovation history!
So that might have been made for NAMM... and that is it.
HERE is the thread that photo came from.
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Location: Germany, where delicious wine is growing (Rheinh) | I found this at Thomann, one of the biggest music gear seller in Germany: http://www.thomann.de/de/ovation_2014_limited_adamas.htm
or this: http://www.thomann.de/de/ovation_new_hartford_artist_rt521_1.htm
Guitars still listet but not yet available. So I'm also a bit confused because I can't believe the have only one for sale.
I'll have an eye on that.
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Location: Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA | Hi, Everyone,
I still like the old Ovation headstock. I am also very happy they kept the pinless bridge. Putting out photos of a new 2014 Adamas prototype, and then closing the USA factory? File this under:
1)"Well, that is a bit of a head-scratcher, ain't it?"
2) Things that make you go,"HMMM. THAT'S NOT RIGHT?!"
Just sayin'
Mike Seguin
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Location: Sydney, Australia | It makes sense to me: The people at the factory were told nothing until: "Everyone, out of the pool". Actually, there's more than one: Al is playing a shiny top, the one in the ad is textured.
Edited by TAFKAR 2014-05-26 1:07 AM
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Location: Utah | I'm not surprised the people at the Mothership were busy innovating and building great new designs without knowing a shutdown was in the near future. Back when I worked in the defense industry we would occasionally have a contract cancelled. For a few weeks only the top few people in the company would know, but they couldn't say anything until a certain date one or two weeks into the future. We'd all be working full tilt until noon on the fateful day, and then we'd be handed pink slips.
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Location: Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA | Hi, Everyone,
I also got the pink slip while teaching guitar at a local music store in 1985, and never saw it coming, either. Yikes! Will this guitar just become a museum piece, or will someone end up doing a dumpster dive for its pieces after F***** gets through with it?
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Location: Central Massachusetts | Michael, a dealer bought it and has it listed on eBay. So it's out of Fender's hands. |
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Location: Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA | YAY!
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Location: Muenster/Germany | Very interesting design. I would say that this one and the other new ltd. model could easily have led Ovation to a new era. Never mind my wonderful OV´s but this is really very tasteful. And the price is quite acceptable for a high-end guitar, I will never understand why the Ovation production was cancelled. Remember the new Mercedes SLR, 476.000 Euros and within a short time more than 2000 of them sold. The market for high-grade products is existing. What did Fender want? Diamond bracelets for every management board member? |
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Location: Utah | DetlefMichel - 2014-05-27 3:23 AM
Very interesting design. I would say that this one and the other new ltd. model could easily have led Ovation to a new era. Never mind my wonderful OV´s but this is really very tasteful. And the price is quite acceptable for a high-end guitar
I agree completely. The design pays homage to the original Ovation headstock, yet is a thoroughly modern appearance which would appeal to buyers who aren't old enough to be emotionally attached to the early days of Ovation. I think Ovation and Adamas did a great job with these 2 new designs of recapturing their territory - an advanced high tech instrument which leads the industry.
Until these models, Ovation and Adamas appeared to be the same old guitars they'd been making for the last 40 years. We know it isn't true, but as long as the basic appearance of the guitars was the same then the assumption would be that these were tired old designs.
DetlefMichel - 2014-05-27 3:23 AM
I will never understand why the Ovation production was cancelled. Remember the new Mercedes SLR, 476.000 Euros and within a short time more than 2000 of them sold. The market for high-grade products is existing. What did Fender want? Diamond bracelets for every management board member?
The market for $3000 guitars is limited. Once someone buys one, they tend to keep it a long time. The exotic car buyer probably buys new cars every few years.
The business model for Ovation, Adamas, and Hamer would be a fairly low volume one, with enough profit to keep people employed and the owners reasonably compensated. Inherently, building something like a musical instrument is as much about pride as it is about profits, as long as there are sufficient profits to keep people employed. But the business model for a large venture capital group is maximum profits, maximum market share, low cost production. I think the two models are incompatible.
The FMIC financial situation was complicated, where a large corporation was in financial trouble and couldn't or wouldn't invest in the marketing or in the proper distribution of KMC products. They failed to get the message out that O/A/H guitars are very high quality for a very reasonable price. They chased the bottom of the market, not the middle or the high ends. They abandoned the brand in order to chase market share.
I was starting to think seriously about a custom order. All my kids are getting out on their own, finally, and I was going to celebrate with a nice custom A in the next year. Having seen these two new designs, I might have simply bought one of them instead of a custom order.
But in the end there is a limited market in this price range. They need enough volume in the mid level or even the entry level to keep the venture alive. |
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Location: south east Michigan | Okay... you're a fly on the wall in a marketing meeting when some says....
"Research shows that for some unknown reason people are confused with our model line-up. We need to change the USA headstock to differentiate them from the off shore Ovations."
"Brilliant!!"
"Genius!"
"Excellent idea!" |
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But in the end there is a limited market in this price range. They need enough volume in the mid level or even the entry level to keep the venture alive.
Ok, sometimes I forget that my own company is so small...I don´t have to manage it like the big ones, I can emphasize on high-quality products only with a continuous success...and sure it is important for bigger companies to have a basic business.
Away from that, I´ve just spent plenty of money for two or three -let´s be honest- four Ovations I had been looking for for quite a long time and (un-)fortunately found them all within a (too)short period..I don´t even have enough space at home for all of them and the last one still is on the road, but even so this new Adamas guitar appears to be a *must have*. I´m afraid I ´ll never see reason with guitars at all, especially with design masterpieces like this.
Does anyone know which kind of bracing this one has? |
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Location: Taxed To Death State | I have been told by service this PL14 was the NAMM protoype and is the only one ever made. Even though it's up there in price, it's certainly one of a kind. |
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Location: Muenster/Germany | It´s on ebay... |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | It's gone now.
So now we can all think about how we shoulda snagged it when we had the chance. 
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New Adamas Proto... PL14
