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Slipkid
Posted 2015-02-16 6:06 PM (#505714)
Subject: Crossing that line



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twistedlim: Posted 2015-02-16 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: 1997 Collector's Series (parlor)

Brad wants it!

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Well... I do & I don't. The last guitar I purchased, tho I like it.... has become a wall hanger. I don't play it but I enjoy it being there.

I'm one guitar into being a "collector" ... and having a "collection".

The guitars I own cover any need I might have. A well respected  Adamas... check... Wood tops that cover the high end, vintage, and work-a-day.. check. A vintage electric and a VXT... check... and a uke.

I admire & desire a number of guitars. I just can't really use any more guitars.

So my number is 8. Anymore and I become a collector. Your number may be higher or lower.

 

 



Edited by Slipkid 2015-02-16 6:07 PM
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Weaser P
Posted 2015-02-16 7:40 PM (#505716 - in reply to #505714)
Subject: Re: Crossing that line


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I'll back you on that, Slip, but I may be one or two behind. Got a very nice wood box, a 1537 and a FUD with an LP copy that rarely sees the light of day. Had a bass that I really enjoyed but lent that to my brother (who wanted to learn for about 30 seconds before he gave it to my nephew who traded it for a mini bike that never ran - and I never saw THAT one again but who among us doesn't have THAT story?)...gotta get my hands on a uke and learn that (can't tell you how many times I've held myself back from pulling the string on a uke!) and I would LOVE an O mando but I really have no idea what I would do with it so it's a ways down this list. A harmonica would be a fun little toy too...so, while I would love one of everything, I'm no collector either.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2015-02-16 8:56 PM (#505717 - in reply to #505714)
Subject: Re: Crossing that line


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I confess. I crossed your line a long time ago. Until about 6, I denied being a collector. I had a 12, a nylon, the Ute and Folklore for fingerstyle, a couple of regular Ovations, although I rarely played the Matrix for fear of wearing out the fingerboard, and a couple of electrics that I didn't use much, but didn't pay much for. I had a Hamer DuoTone, but got rid of it because I didn't use it, but secretly thought the VXT was a better guitar. I bought one of those for Damon and kept the GAS satisfied by buying guitars for other people. The OFC was really where I crossed the line. I've bought about a dozen since then and don't spend enough time with most of them. I sold several about 5 years ago and gave two to our daughters and didn't have much regret. I always thought a collector was someone who, maybe foolishly, kept something with the thought of selling it someday at a profit. I never really got to that point with guitars, but it's probably not an accurate definition.
I may be dreaming that I may have more time soon to use all these guitars. I hope that I don't go the other way and I end up just collecting a bunch of wall hangers.
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Nancy
Posted 2015-02-16 9:20 PM (#505718 - in reply to #505714)
Subject: RE: Crossing that line



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I crossed the line when I came here too! LOL!!

I had just gotten my first Ovation in 20+ years, and found this place.... I am weak, you guys are Great, the more I learn, the more I cherish the Art & Craftmanship, therefore, the more I get. I have no intention of reselling any of my pieces, and don't buy with an eye towards that end. I buy the ones that speak to me, remind me of times in my life, or are just "pretty"! LOL!!!! Women collect differently than men for the most part, we hang on to our pieces, each piece is Special, and we don't feel the need to justify having them, or getting more, other than it just makes us happy! I am VERY happy, and intend to be even Happier! LOL!!!!!!
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kentrookie
Posted 2015-02-16 11:10 PM (#505719 - in reply to #505714)
Subject: Re: Crossing that line


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Wait........There's a line?
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2015-02-16 11:54 PM (#505720 - in reply to #505719)
Subject: Re: Crossing that line



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kentrookie - 2015-02-16 9:10 PM

Wait........There's a line?

Yeah. It's waaay back there...
I passed it a few years ago.
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BanjoJ
Posted 2015-02-17 12:50 AM (#505721 - in reply to #505719)
Subject: Re: Crossing that line



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kentrookie - 2015-02-17 4:10 PM

Wait........There's a line?

The line can be quite faint sometimes and become very hard to see.

It's a bit like being color blind - for us guys.
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Patch
Posted 2015-02-17 6:07 AM (#505723 - in reply to #505714)
Subject: RE: Crossing that line



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I dare you to step across this line..........uh........Well, I dare you to cross THIS line........uh..........Then I DOUBLE DARES YA to cross this line...............

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muzza
Posted 2015-02-17 7:09 AM (#505725 - in reply to #505714)
Subject: RE: Crossing that line



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One quality acoustic 6 string

One acoustic 12 string with 'history'...

One quality electric guitar (single coil) normally tuned

One cheap electric guitar (Humbucker) open tuned

One amazing bass guitar.

Any more is overkill.  (well, maybe I could talk myself into an open tuned acoustic)

And only one of them is an O...

The Folklore is up for sale - not getting used.

Mr WeaserP - 2015-02-17 11:40 AM A harmonica would be a fun little toy too...

A harmonica isn't a toy. Unless you pay $10 for it.  The last 5 I bought cost AUD$160 each.  And a single harmonica is pretty useless at a jam.



Edited by muzzlitebeer 2015-02-17 7:14 AM
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Weaser P
Posted 2015-02-17 7:28 AM (#505726 - in reply to #505725)
Subject: RE: Crossing that line


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muzza - 2015-02-17 7:09 AM

Mr WeaserP - 2015-02-17 11:40 AM A harmonica would be a fun little toy too...

A harmonica isn't a toy. Unless you pay $10 for it.  The last 5 I bought cost AUD$160 each.  And a single harmonica is pretty useless at a jam.



Agreed, Muzz. I think probably much like a uke (or guitar for that matter), you can buy a $10 one and hate it or you can buy a nice one, learn to play and enjoy it.
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Nancy
Posted 2015-02-17 11:02 AM (#505731 - in reply to #505721)
Subject: Re: Crossing that line



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BanjoJ - 2015-02-17 12:50 AM

kentrookie - 2015-02-17 4:10 PM

Wait........There's a line?

The line can be quite faint sometimes and become very hard to see.

It's a bit like being color blind - for us guys.


LMBO!!!!! Don't get me started on the color thing! LOL!!!!!
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Jimmer
Posted 2015-02-17 11:37 AM (#505732 - in reply to #505723)
Subject: RE: Crossing that line


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patchmcg - 2015-02-17 7:07 AM

I dare you to step across this line..........uh........Well, I dare you to cross THIS line........uh..........Then I DOUBLE DARES YA to cross this line...............



I wouldn't bite on this till he "Triple Dog Dares You" which he can't go straight to without a breach in protocol.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2015-02-17 11:47 AM (#505735 - in reply to #505714)
Subject: Re: Crossing that line


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I end up having guitars for reasons that are not always logical, but rather are emotional. If I were logical, I would have a 6, a 12, a nylon, and the old family Martin. Instead, I have 5 six strings, a 12, the Martin, a T-Head, and a 6 string out on long term loan. Most of the 5 six strings are guitars that, rather than searching them out, came to me. How can you sell guitars like that? And the 87C and the CL 30th sound, acoustically, almost identical, and both have the same preamp (OP Pro). Why keep both? Because both have great stories. And unless you can look at your guitars as tools, that is the best reason for having them.....
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Damon67
Posted 2015-02-17 11:51 AM (#505736 - in reply to #505714)
Subject: Re: Crossing that line



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...there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.

Hunter Thompson
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2015-02-17 12:11 PM (#505738 - in reply to #505714)
Subject: Re: Crossing that line


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So Muzz is a harmonica collector. That's cheaper than collecting guitars and takes less space. Yesterday I enjoyed explaining the Ovation story and stories about several of my guitars to someone who at least seemed interested. That makes it worthwhile.
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Weaser P
Posted 2015-02-17 12:19 PM (#505739 - in reply to #505714)
Subject: Re: Crossing that line


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I have it on English authority that he's pretty good at playing them too, Mark. Schroeder has spent time with him and spoke pretty highly of his harp talents. 'Course Schroeder likes bagpipes too so...
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Standingovation
Posted 2015-02-17 1:03 PM (#505740 - in reply to #505714)
Subject: Re: Crossing that line



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Exept for a very few talented people to whom guitars are actually required to earn a living and put food on the table for the rest of us they are just "things".

There's lots reasons to purchase "things" ... some are tools, some are art, some have emotional value, some are investments, some are simply trophies, etc, etc. The guitars I own fall into all of these categories. But none of them are required to sustain my life. Is there a line? I don't know. Through hard work, good choices and a bit if luck, I have been blessed with the ability to own some "things" which bring me joy for various reasons.

Specific to Ovation, I have one wall in my room with four guitar hangers on which I depict what I consider the History Of Ovation. When I'm feeling mellencollie about the state of affairs with KMC, Fender, whatever ... I just look at this wall and absorb the history and all that Ovation has meant to me and many others. I thank my lucky stars that our timelines intersected.

- Glen Campbell Deluxe Balladeer, best of the original shiny bowl series
- Custom Legend 1719 (CM30), best of the "modern" era Ovation woodtops
- Adamas original slothead #42, ushered in a new era simply the best of the best
- Adamas Q #12, the pinnacle of modern Ovation technology

Anything else is just "filler". Don't get me wrong there are plenty of other fine Ovation instruments like the OFC guitar and the Elite 1537, but the four mentioned above really pull on my emotional heart strings. Difficult to justify owning them, but damn glad I do.

Dave
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Slipkid
Posted 2015-02-17 3:05 PM (#505747 - in reply to #505714)
Subject: Re: Crossing that line



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well said Dave.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2015-02-17 3:16 PM (#505748 - in reply to #505714)
Subject: Re: Crossing that line



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Well, first guitar was a no-name that my grandfather had...luthier stated that there was no way he could make it playable, suffered the same fate as the guitar in Animal House at a Univ of Oregon Toga Party (1966 or 1967). Second was a new Martin D12-18 in 1970 that was a good example of poor workmanship, eventually dumped after nine years. The outstanding 1980 NAMM dark sunburst 1158 Custom Legend was my first introduction to Ovation but alas, with several other guitars, sold in 1990 to help start my company (only kept a Martin 1981 NAMM D25K2).

In 2003, started to look for 6 and 12-string dark sunburst CL's. Stumbled onto the OFC, some long talks with Kim, etc. From that time on, seriously afflicted with GAS through early to recent adding Adamas to the list. Some as my primary, some just to familiarize me with what others were praising, a few to resale or trade, some to help an OFC'er who was having to sell but had no offers, some that were duplicates but that I recognized as important (start of the adoption agency), etc.

For a couple of years, intent was one in and one out. Problem is that it is so much fun to search out and acquire versus to sell (even though I have traded a few and sold about 50). No regrets as Ovation and Adamas had amazing models that had the same high level of workmenship and quality but specific differences. And, unfortunately, you had to physically buy the guitar to experience it.

Running out of room is probably the only reason I slowed down oover the last several years. I knew that I had a problem when I was considering mounting some on the master bedroom walls or guest bathroom.
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elginacres
Posted 2015-02-17 9:14 PM (#505752 - in reply to #505714)
Subject: Re: Crossing that line


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#43 - a tool first...part of the family now.
Tak TVN 360 SC - a tool - a workhorse
Green Viper - EA 63....gotta amplify the nylon sound somehow - thanks Dan
Wood Topped 12er...the new era...I call her thunder...bought it just cuz...thanks Dave...
Mossman Golden Era - from the deep water pickers....thanks Stuart
Presently looking for a D-41 - Don McLean Model.... just something about the ones I've played....

But all are just things...peeps mean even more to me
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nerdydave
Posted 2015-02-18 1:07 AM (#505758 - in reply to #505714)
Subject: Re: Crossing that line


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Guitars are like wives -- the more you have the less you can enjoy each one. For me it is better to have a few and spend quality time with each of them than to have many and hardly know each one at all!!
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2015-02-18 1:40 AM (#505759 - in reply to #505714)
Subject: Re: Crossing that line



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I really need to sell some guitars.
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BanjoJ
Posted 2015-02-18 2:16 AM (#505760 - in reply to #505759)
Subject: Re: Crossing that line



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arthurseery - 2015-02-18 6:40 PM

I really need to sell some guitars.


Pick me! Pick me!
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iglupickin
Posted 2015-02-18 7:18 AM (#505763 - in reply to #505714)
Subject: Re: Crossing that line


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I buy instruments to fill a void or particular character in my stringed lineup. Its only a partial list but one that represents a sound or variable to fill a need (other than just "got-to-have it". A 5-string banjo or 12-string Ovation is still a need but when the right opportunity comes up, I'll get one. As a semi-retired person, the time available to enjoy these babies is much stronger that the limited times in-between business, travel, etc I had prior. I've lusted for Martins for their deeper tone, or the brighter and more sensitive Taylors, but over time the gaps between these is narrowing or my ears don't work as well as they use too. A case in point is the Gibson Songwriter I acquired this week in my list. It felt right, played right and had to make it mine! With all the smaller luthier guitars in the outer reach my financial abilities, the choices are so broad in then becomes a challenge to narrow it down to a budget and what works for me. I love my Ovations for all the right reasons but also the character of various brands. I used my Ovation Classical for a friends wedding that was the first time I used it outside the living room and it was inspiring. Sometimes its the song that draws me to what tool I'll use, other times its the song or just the desire to mix up the sounds in a mix of songs.
Whats next? Who knows. :-)
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MWoody
Posted 2015-02-18 7:50 AM (#505764 - in reply to #505714)
Subject: Re: Crossing that line



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I am simply a Portal for Damon to have more amazing guitars than he was capable of finding all on his own...

It's a tough job but somebodies got to do it.
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