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Nancy
Posted 2015-07-27 4:10 PM (#513785)
Subject: Nan-Cave Update



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I have all the cedar up now on the walls, and just got my Nan-Cave sign in today! It turned out Beautifully!
I have the String Swings, and just need to get them spaced and hung, then the Guitars can come out of their cases, and I can see them all everyday!!!

I'll put up some pics, the stuff crammed all over my Family Room is the stuff my Brother was just storing for a month....

It is not perfect, but I am kind of proud of it, I measured, cut and hung all the cedar boards by myself, and the guitars will keep anyone from looking at my saw cuts too closely! . I suck at screwing things into walls so I switched to nails, like I said, not perfect, but at least I didn't give up!!





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DanSavage
Posted 2015-07-27 4:36 PM (#513786 - in reply to #513785)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update



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Nice job, Nancy. It's always good to have a place for your stuff.
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Darkbar
Posted 2015-07-27 4:47 PM (#513787 - in reply to #513785)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update



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Wow, did you leave yourself wide open. Good thing I'm such a polite type of guy.

Very cool sign, btw.

Edited by Darkbar 2015-07-27 4:48 PM
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Nancy
Posted 2015-07-27 4:54 PM (#513788 - in reply to #513787)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update



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Thank you Dan!!!

Darkbar, you are TERRIBLE! LOL! I need to measure twice, and cut once, and recheck what I type twice!!! LOL!!! Thank you for being a such a gentleman!

I love the sign, I wanted to have the Logo put on too, but assumed it would be copyright infringement...

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Mark in Boise
Posted 2015-07-27 5:45 PM (#513789 - in reply to #513785)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update


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I agree that Darkbar is terrible, but he used incredible restraint. I'll admit that I suck at a lot of things, like hanging doors. Nancy, maybe you can get a special exception to allow you to edit your post after the five minutes have expired. You're lucky Cliff, Jeff W. and a few others aren't on here. This would have been off topic really fast.
I really like the rustic cedar look. Apparently, natural wood isn't popular in modern house designs, even in doors and trim, but I still like the look of unpainted wood in a house. I got the Ovation emblems for my guitar room from Miles at one of our Gatherings. I thought they were from guitar cases, but they may have come from amps. They have nice little holes for screwing to the wall. It took me a couple tries to get them right, Nancy, but I figured it out. Keep practicing.
The lighted Ovation sign is definitely an infringing product that was frequently on ebay a few years ago.
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Nancy
Posted 2015-07-27 6:25 PM (#513791 - in reply to #513789)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update



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Mark in Boise - 2015-07-27 5:45 PM

I agree that Darkbar is terrible, but he used incredible restraint. I'll admit that I suck at a lot of things, like hanging doors. Nancy, maybe you can get a special exception to allow you to edit your post after the five minutes have expired. You're lucky Cliff, Jeff W. and a few others aren't on here. This would have been off topic really fast.
I really like the rustic cedar look. Apparently, natural wood isn't popular in modern house designs, even in doors and trim, but I still like the look of unpainted wood in a house. I got the Ovation emblems for my guitar room from Miles at one of our Gatherings. I thought they were from guitar cases, but they may have come from amps. They have nice little holes for screwing to the wall. It took me a couple tries to get them right, Nancy, but I figured it out. Keep practicing.
The lighted Ovation sign is definitely an infringing product that was frequently on ebay a few years ago.


I will message Mr Ovation and see if he would kindly let me change that, or if he would do it for me, it was not my intention to be crass, just under-educated in the appropriate term. And I do appreciate you guys' restraint on my faux pas. Thank You!

I like the natural wood in my house too, it was suggested to me to update it, and paint it or remove it, but I like it, so it stays!
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Slipkid
Posted 2015-07-27 7:05 PM (#513792 - in reply to #513785)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update



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**** snicker ****
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Really, Really cool sign.
Wouldn't worry about some copyright lawyers chasing you down.
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Darkbar
Posted 2015-07-27 7:07 PM (#513793 - in reply to #513792)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update



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I know a few guys who might qualify for a Nancy-Cave.
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Beal
Posted 2015-07-27 7:53 PM (#513794 - in reply to #513785)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update



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Yeah that was a slow pitch down the middle. You need the Herculese turnable hangers, that way you can fit in twice as much.
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Nancy
Posted 2015-07-27 8:21 PM (#513796 - in reply to #513793)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update



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Ok, I have put an Alert into The Moderators to see if I can change my inappropriate wording (again, my apologies, that was not my intention).

So you guys being men, and talented handy-men at that, and so kind about sharing your knowledge and experience with me, what is the proper lingo I should have used? If you are using a hammer, you are hammering, if you use a drill, you are drilling, if you use a saw, your are sawing (using this logic, or lack thereof, you can see how I might of thought I was saying it right) What should I have said if I cannot properly affix a piece of wood to the wall using screws???

And Thank you for the kind comments on the sign, I am really pleased with the way it turned out! . It is starting to really feel like "My Place" now!
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Beal
Posted 2015-07-27 8:37 PM (#513797 - in reply to #513785)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update



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A "man" might say I'm great at screwing and nailing things but I opted for the hot glue gun and stuck it.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2015-07-27 9:03 PM (#513798 - in reply to #513785)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update


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It's tough to avoid words that have double meanings. There's a lot of South Park or Bevis and Butthead potential. So, what the heck. Use a stud finder (Stanley makes a good one), but verify it by making sure it lines up with a side of an electrical outlet. The studs should be 16 inches apart, but could be 24. Make sure the boards you hang the guitars on are screwed into each stud behind it. The Swing Strings or Hercules have their own screws that can just go into the boards. You have to allow about 18 inches between hangers hanging side by side, but Beal is right. The Hercules can go about 9 inches apart.
I have 5 Hercules hangers in about a 4 foot space, but 11 guitars in an 11 foot space with 6 on the top row and 5 below that. I couldn't fit two rows on the wall if I used all Hercules hangers, but could hang all 11 guitars in one row angled sideways. Part of my decision was based on the hangers I already had.
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elginacres
Posted 2015-07-27 9:07 PM (#513799 - in reply to #513785)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update


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Nancy: even though there are opportunities galore here...I recommend perhaps" I am not very good at turning a screw". However, it is sticky wicket however you dance around this one. Btw..the room looks nice...+1 on the Hercules hangers that will swivel...gives you loads of space options
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Beal
Posted 2015-07-27 9:09 PM (#513800 - in reply to #513785)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update



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Leave it to a lawyer to come up with a real answer. I always used those spring clamps that open once through the wall and then never worried about where the studs were. When you did hit one you just used a real screw. Then you place these screws under where you have the Hercs.
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Beal
Posted 2015-07-27 9:10 PM (#513801 - in reply to #513785)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update



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Leave it to a lawyer to come up with a real answer. I always used those spring clamps that open once through the wall and then never worried about where the studs were. When you did hit one you just used a real screw. Then you place these screws under where you have the Hercs.
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Patch
Posted 2015-07-27 9:10 PM (#513802 - in reply to #513785)
Subject: RE: Nan-Cave Update



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Nicely done Nancy.

And just let me say....

Nah....

Nevermind...

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Nancy
Posted 2015-07-27 9:13 PM (#513803 - in reply to #513797)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update



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cwk2 - 2015-07-27 8:37 PM

A "man" might say I'm great at screwing and nailing things but I opted for the hot glue gun and stuck it.


Ok, Got it! Thank You Beal!

I am still not good at attaching wood to the walls with screws, so I need to practice on a scrap piece! . I must be trying to go too fast, I keep destroying the tops of them.
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Nancy
Posted 2015-07-27 9:27 PM (#513807 - in reply to #513798)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update



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Mark in Boise - 2015-07-27 9:03 PM

It's tough to avoid words that have double meanings. There's a lot of South Park or Bevis and Butthead potential. So, what the heck. Use a stud finder (Stanley makes a good one), but verify it by making sure it lines up with a side of an electrical outlet. The studs should be 16 inches apart, but could be 24. Make sure the boards you hang the guitars on are screwed into each stud behind it


Oh no you don't Mark, If I said I used a "stud finder" (which I did), it will leave me open to a permanent vacation, and I don't want that... . So I used one of those blinky indicators to find the main support boards behind the drywall. .

My problem is, that I destroy the tops of the screws when I try to power tool them into the wood (should be safe wording). Maybe I am trying to go to fast? Maybe I should go read the booklet, or watch YouTube videos before I ruin my beautiful boards. I can run a chain saw pretty well now, but my neighbor taught me how to use that, and I read the booklet twice!

And this is the Ovation Forum, not Handyman for Idiots, so I will go do some research! . Sorry Guys!
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Nancy
Posted 2015-07-27 9:32 PM (#513808 - in reply to #513802)
Subject: RE: Nan-Cave Update



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patchmcg - 2015-07-27 9:10 PM

Nicely done Nancy.

And just let me say....

Nah....

Nevermind...



Thank You Patch!!!

Both for the nice compliment, and not taking advantage of my ignorance!
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Nancy
Posted 2015-07-27 9:38 PM (#513810 - in reply to #513799)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update



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elginacres - 2015-07-27 9:07 PM

Nancy: even though there are opportunities galore here...I recommend perhaps" I am not very good at turning a screw". However, it is sticky wicket however you dance around this one. Btw..the room looks nice...+1 on the Hercules hangers that will swivel...gives you loads of space options


Thank You Elginacres!
I think the Hercules Hangers will be a great idea on the shorter sides around the fireplace and windows, the long wall is 32' long, and I will be able to get quite a few straight on down that wall. If I have extra space, I am going to think that I need to fill it, and that would be bad! LOL!!!
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nerdydave
Posted 2015-07-27 11:59 PM (#513819 - in reply to #513785)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update


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Since you are putting up the cedar boards you can simply locate one stud and then drill small (3/32) test holes at 16 inch intervals to assure there is a stud there. Put a piece of masking tape on each stud just above where the board will be. Then the board covers up your test holes and you are securely mounted in studs. As far as the screwing comments go I didn't even notice them until alerted by other members. In most of the world this would be a non issue. Someday our society will hopefully catch up!!
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Darkbar
Posted 2015-07-28 6:14 AM (#513820 - in reply to #513819)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update



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I'm actually mildly proud of the sense of restraint we idiot men showed here in not jumping on that innocent comment made by a LADY. If it was ME that said I suck at screwing, there would be 3 pages of smarmy comments.

Nancy, you need to relax the clutch setting on your drill if you're tearing up the heads of your screws. Find the fine line between too much give and just enough to set a screw tight.
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Weaser P
Posted 2015-07-28 7:10 AM (#513821 - in reply to #513820)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update


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darkbarguitar - 2015-07-28 6:14 AM
Nancy, you need to relax the clutch setting on your drill if you're tearing up the heads of your screws. Find the fine line between too much give and just enough to set a screw tight.


And it's usually a good idea to drill a pilot as well.

Just make sure he lands the plane first.




Ok, ok...SOMEone had to do it.
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Darkbar
Posted 2015-07-28 7:32 AM (#513822 - in reply to #513821)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update



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Way to go, Weas. Proud of you, man. (....sniff....)
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Beal
Posted 2015-07-28 8:51 AM (#513825 - in reply to #513785)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update



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It must have been the gold lamay candlestick costume.
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