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Tupperware
Posted 2007-06-29 11:19 PM (#92106)
Subject: OFC Guitar # 8


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Beggin
Posted 2007-06-29 11:25 PM (#92107 - in reply to #92106)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar # 8


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hmmmm........well.......hmmmmm (sorry, can't find the words)
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Thanksforallthefish
Posted 2007-06-29 11:25 PM (#92108 - in reply to #92106)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar # 8
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they just don't make phillips head hammers the way they used to..

sorry tup..

Glenn
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cliff
Posted 2007-06-29 11:44 PM (#92109 - in reply to #92106)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar # 8


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ouch-ie.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-06-29 11:50 PM (#92110 - in reply to #92106)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar # 8


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Oh boy... not good.

To do it right, will a whole new neck have to be carved? That picture is painful to look at.

The only positive side of this is that Tup's definitely got a few nice guitars to play while this is straightened out.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-06-29 11:56 PM (#92111 - in reply to #92106)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar # 8


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Looks like it might be one screw in crooked. I hope. I hate to sound like a cad, but I immediately pulled mine out to check.
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muzza
Posted 2007-06-30 12:11 AM (#92112 - in reply to #92106)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar # 8



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An OFC FRG?
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Jeff W.
Posted 2007-06-30 12:21 AM (#92113 - in reply to #92106)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar # 8


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oof.
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Northcountry
Posted 2007-06-30 12:31 AM (#92114 - in reply to #92106)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar # 8
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Perhaps that is the only one that is correct and the other five need to be tipped.
If this is one of the new slothead Adamas's, for the price and the hand made quality of their originals they are to copy, this will certainly be an embarrassment to the factory. I am sure they will take care of this ASAP if you should want.
Give them my address will ya I'd like to buy this as a second............

Randy
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noah
Posted 2007-06-30 12:38 AM (#92115 - in reply to #92106)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar # 8



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Sorry to see that Dave.

How could QA miss that :confused:
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fugot
Posted 2007-06-30 12:43 AM (#92116 - in reply to #92106)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar # 8


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natural imperfection...

yeah the real question is repair or replace neck? bummer....
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-06-30 12:56 AM (#92117 - in reply to #92106)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar # 8



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I read that around 8:20 pm-- But I thought that I'd wait to make a stupid remark :cool:
You can't send it back for another...
Unless you wanna ask them for a whole new neck.

Looking at it again, I agree with Mark, that the body-side screw is in there crooked. But they should have seen that! (that's why you drill a pilot -hole)
You could fix it. Or have them.

Cuz you know that you will always KNOW that it is there :mad:

Sorry for your discomfort!
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Country Artist
Posted 2007-06-30 1:13 AM (#92118 - in reply to #92106)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar # 8



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bummer!

for the money, keep buying martins, son.
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noah
Posted 2007-06-30 2:04 AM (#92119 - in reply to #92106)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar # 8



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Two of mine that went back to be destroyed and/or remade.

Do I see a pattern?

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Tom_CA
Posted 2007-06-30 2:20 AM (#92120 - in reply to #92106)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar # 8


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Sorry to see that Dave.

I have the exact same problem on my FD14 and I thought that this is how the guitar was born and it should stay like this.

Tell us what you plan to do about it.

Tom
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lanaki
Posted 2007-06-30 2:49 AM (#92121 - in reply to #92106)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar # 8


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the body side screw is in crooked but both screws are misplaced also. new neck...
what a sham(e)!
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Charlie Ramon
Posted 2007-06-30 4:08 AM (#92122 - in reply to #92106)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar # 8


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Very disappointing to see that on an upmarket US made Adamas. That's the last straw. Frank, it's high time to fire Larry and the Daryl brothers.

Dave, apart from this botch, what do you think about #8?

Karl
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2007-06-30 5:52 AM (#92123 - in reply to #92106)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar # 8


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I realize what I'm about to ask is the least of anyone's worry's, but....

Why are the tuners not the Ovation logo'd Schaller tuners?
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noah
Posted 2007-06-30 6:25 AM (#92124 - in reply to #92106)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar # 8



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I assumed that Dave ordered the guitar with those tuners.
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Slipkid
Posted 2007-06-30 6:42 AM (#92125 - in reply to #92106)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar # 8



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I'm speechless.... almost.
I'm bummed for you buddy.
I have to wonder... why you?
Not that I would wish this on any other member but... why you?
It's like some crazy planet alignment thing that makes you... Mr. Objective Ovation promotor, Mr. gee wood box guitars are starting to look pretty good to me.... Mr. high profile OFC member... get this guitar.
So, why you?
The guy's whose job it is to screw up (oops... I mean screw on ) the tuners is in for ass chewin' come monday morning. And the climax of the chewing will be to the theme of... " and do you realize just who this guitar was for???".

So when I have my daily quiet time today the cosmic event I will ponder is... "Why Dave???"
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Trader Jim
Posted 2007-06-30 7:19 AM (#92126 - in reply to #92106)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar # 8


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I think it's time ol' Mr. "fit and finish" and "final inspection" have a new neck and shipping charges garnished from their wages...just before they get the pink slip.
Sorry Dave, that is truly unacceptable from a quality company like Ovation. Heads need to roll on this one! :mad:
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Charlie Ramon
Posted 2007-06-30 7:50 AM (#92127 - in reply to #92106)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar # 8


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Slipkid, that's also what I ask myself: Why Dave?
A few months ago we also had a quality discussion on this board. I assumed that they ship all their crap to Europe.

Dave argued:

"Nobody likes a good consiracy theory more than I. But I seriously doubt there is any overt policy to ship "crap" to europe and sell the better stuff in the US. I have no idea how the ovation factory runs, but it would seem impossible or at the very least impractical, that the destination of guitars is pre-ordained before they are built. Remember, Ovation builds and "sells" the guitars to Kaman music and they distribute them via their channels and foreign distributors. I doubt Kaman has any idea what's in the box when they decide that this one goes to Chicago and this one goes to Munich. In reality, keeping track of the "crap" and making sure it got to the right country would be more difficult than eliminating the problems to begin with. Dave"

Now I know he is right. They had no idea that this guitar was destined for one of their most important promoters.

Karl
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giuseppe
Posted 2007-06-30 8:12 AM (#92128 - in reply to #92106)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar # 8
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Not the best thing to see on a guitar. Dave, you should send it back and ask them to fix it.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2007-06-30 8:15 AM (#92129 - in reply to #92106)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar # 8


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Originally posted by Slipkid:
"Why Dave???"
Simply because the probability it will occur increases with the number of guitars one purchases. No mystery.

That doesn't mean it sucks any less... One does have to wonder, how that obvious a defect gets through on what is arguably the finest, mostly-hand-built, highest priced 6 string limited production guitar Ovation has ever made.

Dave, remember to include your completed warranty card with the guitar when you ship it back...
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2007-06-30 8:35 AM (#92130 - in reply to #92106)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar # 8



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That is hard to look at. Sorry for you, Dave.

These quality issues seem to happen more often than we thought in my quality issue thread. Happened to my first #47, my first JW RI, my Ute ,Tom's FD 14, now Dave's OFC and some others that I won't name until the owners do it by themselves.

Again I will claim - these are not serial models for typical "okay, then let's try a Ovation"-GC customers. These are guitars for people who know what they want and hang on to their brand. That most of the time have more than one of these guitars and lead others the path to Ovation guitars with their conviction and love for them.
That even live in a forum - beside their second life.

It is disrespectful to let stuff like this leave the factory - and laugh in the customer's face with a quality assurance sheet that is not worth the money it is printed on. Neither are these guitars worth any money.

" We inspect and certify each Ovation instrument as though it were our own".
Maybe they should think about it, and inspect and build them as if they were for their longterm and trustful customers.

Kurt
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