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Jérôme
Posted 2005-10-04 12:53 AM (#134984)
Subject: A strange Adamas II ...



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This morning, I've seen this one and i've got some questions:
ADAMAS II ON EBAY

1- The seller says 1681-9. Usually, the #9 indicate brown color and this one seems to be red.


2- It's not a 5 pieces neck.


3- The fretboard seem's not to be walnut but Ebony.


4- The neck could have been changed but there's the Adamas logo on the head:


Could it be a custom order or is it a model that I didn't know???

Jérôme :)
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Tony Calman
Posted 2005-10-04 1:25 AM (#134985 - in reply to #134984)
Subject: Re: A strange Adamas II ...



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notice the extra holes for the tuners???
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fugot
Posted 2005-10-04 8:20 AM (#134986 - in reply to #134984)
Subject: Re: A strange Adamas II ...


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Paulmac, I will speculate that the fretboard is dirty, like never before once ever cleaned dirty.
Since it is from florida, the original tuners might have corroded and been replaced. I have no idea about the color. I would just close my eyes.
I am just fishing on this and have only made a token bid.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-10-04 9:33 AM (#134987 - in reply to #134984)
Subject: Re: A strange Adamas II ...


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I think one must ask, "Why would some one replace the original gold tuners?"

I think corrosion is unlikely. the sealed gold tuners are pretty freakin durable.

This guitar has had the neck replaced in addtion to the tuners and a wad of paper at the bridge to compensate for the poor neck job.


If it goes at the right price, can you say, " Complete Factory Refurb"
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-10-04 9:38 AM (#134988 - in reply to #134984)
Subject: Re: A strange Adamas II ...


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I lived on Balboa Island for 5 years and the gold tuners on my old Legend completely corrodid.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-10-04 9:43 AM (#134989 - in reply to #134984)
Subject: Re: A strange Adamas II ...


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Wash your hands once in a while, Paul.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-10-04 9:45 AM (#134990 - in reply to #134984)
Subject: Re: A strange Adamas II ...


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Why?

I wasn't handling the tuner posts which were the first to corrode.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-10-04 9:46 AM (#134991 - in reply to #134984)
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...and I'm surprised that your sealed gold tuners lasted only 5 years.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-10-04 9:51 AM (#134992 - in reply to #134984)
Subject: Re: A strange Adamas II ...


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The tuners worked great but looked ugly. Too much salt exposure in the air.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-10-04 9:57 AM (#134993 - in reply to #134984)
Subject: Re: A strange Adamas II ...


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Still, I'm surprised that it only took 5 years. Gold...even plated gold is pretty resistant to corrosion.

I suppose, however, that if the strings were to wear away the plating on the posts they could corrode much more quickly.
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Ced
Posted 2005-10-04 11:51 AM (#134994 - in reply to #134984)
Subject: Re: A strange Adamas II ...


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Sometimes brown looks redish when you take a picture. It the camera that does that. I am a skatebaord collector, and it does that a lot. Pink comes out orange, red comes out pink...ect

But that doesn't escuse the unescusable. What the hell is wrong with people making extra hole in an instrument of that caliber. I'm working on deal for another guitar, so i can't do it right now, but somebody needs to rescue that poor girl. It's not too late.

Any idea how high the price might go?

Thank you very much

Ced
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Waskel
Posted 2005-10-04 12:19 PM (#134995 - in reply to #134984)
Subject: Re: A strange Adamas II ...



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Save the picture of the headstock, so you can zoom in on it.
If you look real close you could almost believe the veneer with the Adamas logo was lifted off the original and applied to a different neck.
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-10-04 12:54 PM (#134996 - in reply to #134984)
Subject: Re: A strange Adamas II ...



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It's a cobble job. Headstock is wrong shape. Here's what a real Adamas headstock should look like.

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Ced
Posted 2005-10-04 1:09 PM (#134997 - in reply to #134984)
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I might too late for a guitar rescue then!!!!

Damn, that's a shame.

THX

Ced
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Waskel
Posted 2005-10-04 1:11 PM (#134998 - in reply to #134984)
Subject: Re: A strange Adamas II ...



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Jérôme
Posted 2005-10-04 1:14 PM (#134999 - in reply to #134984)
Subject: Re: A strange Adamas II ...



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Maybe is it an "Adomos" or "Ademus"???
Another copy from Asia???? :D :D :D

J :cool:
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-10-04 2:03 PM (#135000 - in reply to #134984)
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It's an Adios !
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Jérôme
Posted 2005-10-04 2:08 PM (#135001 - in reply to #134984)
Subject: Re: A strange Adamas II ...



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Thanks for make me laugh:D :D :D :D :D
It's good after a hard day at work.

J :)
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-10-04 2:19 PM (#135002 - in reply to #134984)
Subject: Re: A strange Adamas II ...


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Adanectomy.
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Beal
Posted 2005-10-04 4:59 PM (#135003 - in reply to #134984)
Subject: Re: A strange Adamas II ...



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Actually it is real. It is a -9 finish. It is probably one of the first Ad II guitars, note the 2 piece neck. They did have multiple veneers. That headstock is the electric version rather than the acoustic. Compare it to a preecher and you'll find it's the same I bet. Probably just had to change the tuners for some reason, it happens.

OK I checked it out further on the Ebay listing. It is a special brown, darker than the normal -9. I remember this guitar. Nick made it up to see what the real dark brown would look like. Looks like the bowl took a hit somewhere, walnut f/b that's never been cleaned. If someone gets serious about this contact Timm Kummer, prewar99@kummersvintage.com, he lives in Ft. Lauderdale, he could go look at it and give a first hand report.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2005-10-04 5:52 PM (#135004 - in reply to #134984)
Subject: Re: A strange Adamas II ...


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That's the Ovation Solidbody headstock profile from the introduction of the Vipers and Preachers. Maybe it was put together as an employee project
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Beal
Posted 2005-10-04 6:37 PM (#135005 - in reply to #134984)
Subject: Re: A strange Adamas II ...



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It was a Nick Mackin project.
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Abendicum
Posted 2005-10-04 6:50 PM (#135006 - in reply to #134984)
Subject: Re: A strange Adamas II ...


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So cw2 I guess you ARE saying this was an "inside job" by one of your fellow employees...

When guitars were pieced together from parts like this... Was a serial number issued ???

Ab
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Thanksforallthefish
Posted 2005-10-04 6:56 PM (#135007 - in reply to #134984)
Subject: Re: A strange Adamas II ...
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Learning every day....

guess it's not worth waking up if I don't tho.

Thanks for the insight on this one Cwk2.

God Bless,

Glenn
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bvince
Posted 2005-10-04 8:43 PM (#135008 - in reply to #134984)
Subject: Re: A strange Adamas II ...



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Well ok then ... What do you think it would cost to have a whole new neck/fretboard and tuners put on this? If it sells cheap enough, it could be a refurb project. But by the time you pay for the necessary repairs, shipping both ways ... and the electronics are probably corroded also, purchasing a different guitar would probably be cheaper.
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