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| There are Russian guitars. They are the worst guitars in the world. Interestingly Fender Custom Shop's top top man is a Russian emigre who first got a job packing guitars at Washburn when he arrived. He ended up building most of the Washburn Signature guitars (including Dimebags) before Fender lured him away with sunshine and money.
Not a mention of politics. I have nearly bitten my tongue off. On the up side my wife thought Moody was rather good looking when she saw the pics on his posting - I won't mention the politics to her. |
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Location: SE Michigan | I have been in the thick of some heated political threads on this forum before, and I'll ask the same question again: What's the harm? If people want to talk a little politics what is the harm? Many forums would love to have any response, 26 responses means people are reading and responding to this forum, isn't that a good thing?
And I will say again the internet is the town square of our era, we owe it to our children to speak out. People are dying for the cause of freedom and we are freaking out because our guitar web forum is talking a little politics. Are we Americans here or what? The really scary thing is when people stop talking politics and issues. Then we've become a bunch of apathetic couch potatos mindlessly strumming our six strings. Then we have reason to be very afraid.
And for the record, I support our miltary and the cause of freedom for the Iraqi people, but I think 4fingers nailed the point; we were sold a bill of goods and a lot of people paid a very high price for it. |
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Location: NJ | it has been the request of Miles and myself that we talk about guitars on this forum, in particular Ovation and Adamas guitars.
Personally I have seen too many friendships and businesses ruined over political BS on the web. If you want to talk politics use the phone or another forum set up for the exchange of political ideas.
Is there any part of this post that is NOT clear????????????????? |
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Location: Midland, MI | I wish it were more like a coffee shop than a town square. Then we could all play bongos and wear black turtlenecks and act like smoove, cool beatniks, daddy-o. :D
My older sister purchased an electric guitar for her oldest son. It was made in some 'Stan' country. The neck wasn't just backbowed, it was twisted. The bridge was fubar to the point where no adjustment would get you in the neighborhood of proper intonation. The tuners would slip over a short period of time (think hours, not days). I felt bad for him. Not bad enough to loan him my O or any of my 'lectrics, but...bad juju. It was almost as bad as current Gib*on and Fen*er offerings, I tell ya!
HAHAHAHA! See, a little humor with the guitar talk! ;) |
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Location: south east Michigan | For the most part, I agree with Brian T. However there is always someone who just don't know when to quit or understand the limitation of this format. Therefore, I think it's best left to a seperate section or another forum. |
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Location: Germantown, MD | Just an observation from an English teacher/writer/person who cares about language.
We're told (mostly, but not exclusively by the administration) that the election in Iraq is about freedom. It really has more to do with democracy--although I'm having a lot of trouble imagining voting in an election in which the candidates' names aren't on the ballot and I could only vote by party. Most countries, including Iraq, have had something resembling elections for some time, but as someone commented last week, "Democracy doesn't happen when you vote someone into office; it happens when you vote someone out.
Skeptical as I am about this experiment is spreading democracy by force of arms, I'd like to see the Iraqi people getting a better deal than they've gotten, but I'm afraid it's going to be a while before we can really celebrate success there.
Peace,
John
PS. Several reports I've seen indicate that the hope-raising scenes of people lining up to vote and proudly displaying their purple fingers are coming from just a few fairly well controlled areas and there's little news coming out of the rest of the country because the media aren't permitted to go there. |
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Location: SE Michigan | I'll abide by the rules Alpep, but I cant help but marvel at some of the ridiculous topics I have seen on this forum that have nothing at all to do with guitars. Some of them went on and on and on.
I cant help but wonder if the real problem is that some people dont like the opinions being expressed. I'd like to think of members of this forum as sort of an extended set of friends. It's nice to talk about what's on your mind with your friends. I hope to see you come down on all non guitar threads with equal zeal.
Maybe you should post the rules so we all can be clear about what is and is not allowed. |
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Location: Lafayette, Louisiana | I sure can't wait to try the 2005 collectors! :D :D :D |
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Location: Midland, MI | Anyone have tab for the into to 'Long cool woman' so I can play it on my Elite? ;) |
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This board is not intended to be a forum to promote any individual agenda be it from a single person, groups, or commercial or private entity. It is a private community of Ovation enthusiasts from around the world, encompassing a variety of backgrounds, ages, and interests. All opinions and discussions are welcome without fear of censorship, with the only "rule" being to be kind to each other. When said discussions and/or opinions become disruptive and/or repetitive and degenerate into personal agenda, we reserve the right to close threads, remove posts, and ultimately suspend participation.
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Location: Las Vegas | Long before the "Iraqui" "elections" result in real "freedom" or real "democracy" for the Iraquis any more than the Diebold "elections" did for the American People, I will have climbed into a time machine, gone back to 1970, bought every single Ovation guitar and amp I could find, and brought them back to 1974 where I will stay till the end of my days, climbing back into said time machine at the stroke of 12 on New Years' Eve each year thereafter.
And far more likely to happen.
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Location: Phoenix AZ | How does a thread about Irag (on a GUITAR forum) get more replies than a thread about guitars? I know they are still counting votes in Ohio, but trust me - the election is over. Nobody likes soldiers losing their lives anywhere in the world ... or citizens losing theirs. There is no right/wrong on this one - only opinions. Personally I'd rather play my guitar and leave the politics up to my elected officials. Dave |
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Location: Madison, Wisconsin | Look what you've started Bailey! I bet there are a bunch of OFC members walking around with swollen lips after today. I know I have bitten mine several times. |
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Location: SoCal | I like this group of people. There were opinions expressed and nobody got bent out of shape, nobody got personal and nobody got hurt. And there were even some guitars discussed. Anybody realize how rare this thread is? In a world where people yell and call names just because they disagree, that never happened here.
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Location: SoCal | well, it was kinda boring yesterday... |
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Location: SE Michigan | We need the Bush administartion to invade the OFC and free the oppressed masses yearning to speak freely and vote! yes vote! WE NEED FREE ELECTIONS OF OUR FORUM ADMINISTRATORS!!!
Long have the Elitest multi-holed slot-headed deep-bowl minority imposed their will on the unrepresented center-hole loving majority!
For years we have played only the guitars they allow, we go into the shops and see only the models they approve of! No MORE!! DOWN WITH SUPPRESSION OF FREE GUITAR EXPRESSION!!
Help us George W., Those new funny shaped bowls are actually plutonium enrichmant chambers, The new gradphite rods in the LX neck are parts for a missle launch system! Don't wait for the smoking gun! Invade now! Don't wait for the mushroom cloud! |
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Location: Lafayette, Louisiana | How about the 2005 collectors new bowl design? Is that cool are what? :D :D :D |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Paul,
It like that echo off the wall Miles was talkin 'bout :eek: :eek: :eek:
I can only hear the sounds of my 1537........
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | As has been stated, sometimes other discussions that are not political or religious in nature don't get asked to be ceased as much as political or relgious ones do. Good point, but as the other topics are not as passionate, they usually defuse on their own quick enough. As the admin I "pick my battles" as it were. Although some topics are not about Ovation guitars, they aren't worth really making a fuss about. A stray from the centerline is a fun distraction sometimes and I don't have a problem with that. I particularly find political and religious discussions the most dangerous with regard to online forums and friendships in general. Just because we have a common interest and attitude towards guitars and many other aspects in life, don't think for a minute that we are even remotely similar in our politcal and religous beliefs.
The fact that those that participate in the conversations already know how Al and I feel about it, yet still continue, I can only regard this as a complete lack of respect for not only myself and Al, but to the people who do respect our wishes.
The Terms of Serice boil down to a simple request from Al and I. Be kind to each other, and stay away from any agenda's. I don't think that's a lot to ask... but, maybe it is. |
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Location: Lafayette, Louisiana | Well said Miles, now back to guitars! |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Great Opinions
We all have them
Iraqis are close to being able to express theirs.
We have been able to express ours for over 200 years.
Many, many U. S. soldiers have died for that, even in my limited lifetime (I was born in 1935), I volunteered for Korea but didn't have to go, many others had already went and died. Almost everybody we knew in the early 40's had a friend, relative, loved one who died in WWII, and we thanked them when we saw Aushwits, Viet Nam was the first war where Americans shouted for more soldiers to die so they could get political power and had the gall to call those who died from Canada where they deserted "baby killers". Now our soldier volunteers have to hear "Americans" hoping for more casualties so they can get elected from their safe homes here where the terrorists have been shut out by our troops in Afganistan and Iraq.
If Carter had not had the amnesty the people who are now cheering for the "insurgents" would have been serving sentences for desertion in time of war instead of crowing from their safe positions in the media.
In he 18th century it wasn't unusual to run a totally corrupt traitor out of town on a rail with some tar and feathers and maybe a little horse whipping, that was a little extreme, but gloating on the death of soldiers for the hope of getting votes or glory is the other extreme.
I would suggest that those of you who think our soldiers are wrong in shooting "insurgents" go over their and reason with them in their little houses where they cut of "infidels" heads. |
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Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | Alright, obviously there are many people on the board who wish to discuss things other than guitars. If the administrators of this board are against that, then we should respect their wishes. If anyone is interested, I can set up a little discussion board for those of you who want to talk about "non guitar" issues.
If you're interested, e-mail me and I will set something up. Hopefully this will make everyone happy.
John
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Location: SoCal | Miles, you're just now figuring out that we have no respect for you and Al????
I like this place. It's one of the few clubs that I want to belong to. I mean, why would I want to be a member of any club that would have me?
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Iraqi elections, No politics allowed
