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Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba CANADA | Well, there seems to be more people here that like Elixirs than hate them (and that is saying something...).
I'm sure EVERYONE will agree they ARE over-priced... The bill for strings at the music store must look like the national debt of Bolivia for some of you if you are re-stringing everything with Elixirs, lol.
As to personal taste, I've used D'Addarios on my Legend for years and don't need to look further for that because they sound fine, play well and last an acceptable length of time. They are very predictable and that is the most important thing to me. Now just to get the two Adamas' singing in tune...
G8R... what gauge of Cleartone EMP do you recommend? |
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Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba CANADA | G8R... went to Cleartone's site and see they only make one gauge for 12 string... .010 - .047
Got it... thanks.
See Cleartone makes a special electric drop-tuning set... now if they only made one for 12 string as well!! |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | AW yes Cleartones. Yeah those are NICE! |
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Location: Flahdaw | I like the brightness of Cleartones for "nuclear destruction of America" songs. The warm woodiness of Elixers would be perfect for "cries of death and sorrow" songs. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | This is stupid - different strings for different songs? Come on, I've heard of different strings for different guitars, but what are proposing to do Dark-Bar, stop in the middle of your set and say "Ooops, hang on everybody I just need to change my strings and then we'll launch into the next song". I suspect your post is not serious.
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Location: 6 String Ranch | That's why you have multiple guitars.
Of course you have to change your shirt for the right "look" with each. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | OK, sorry. I misinterpreted his comment. I thought he was actually proposing to use different strings on the same guitar which obviously makes no sense. |
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Location: south east Michigan | The right tool for the right job.
If I wrote about bitterness, dispare and sorrow, I'd want to play a Taylor. Because if I was playing a Taylor, I'd feel bitter and depressed right from the start.
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by Avatar4550:
I'm sure EVERYONE will agree they ARE over-priced... No, actually, I don't agree with that. For what they are and how long they last, I think they are fairly priced.
Don't make generalized statements. But then, weren't you the Canadian who stated that EVERYBODY hated George Bush? Maybe when you say EVERYBODY, you're just making reference to your small circle of friends? |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by Slipkid:
The right tool for the right job.
If I wrote about bitterness, dispare and sorrow, I'd want to play a Taylor. Because if I was playing a Taylor, I'd feel bitter and depressed right from the start.
. Wish I had posted this. Cuts to the heart of the matter...... |
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Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba CANADA | OK, Moody... a blanket statement, you're right... RETRACTED!!
They are more expensive... NOT over-priced.
Anybody want to discuss strings and intonation problems?
No...?
I have been instructed NOT to participate in ANY discussions here of a political or personal nature and I intend to honour that agreement.
Will be back when the thread is on topic... |
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Location: Flahdaw | MY post was clearly about strings. Now, if everyone would just follow my example.... |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | 2nd place to Darkbar. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I doubt the company that makes elixers thinks they are overpriced. |
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Location: Flahdaw | There's no cut and dried answer as far as strings go.
Green Days "American Idiot" was performed with D'Addarios
The Briefs "Destroy America" was performed using Elixers (worth the extra money, I guess) |
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Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba CANADA | Can anyone provide a link to a thread explaining how to remove and replace a single bridge saddle... or perhaps briefly describe what is involved in case I need to try that... Thanks |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Try the "frets" site. I think they have a lot of "how to" tutorials. |
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Location: Texas | I sure hope I don't regret joining this thread, but…
Avatar4550's original post and most of the discussion in this thread were pretty direct and on-topic. He seems to be exhibiting a new approach to the board which is more in keeping with the general spirit of conversation here.
Now, if other folks who may have different world-views would also just stick to guitars and related matters and try to avoid baiting people into areas of discussion or behaviors that are inappropriate, much more of our time and bandwidth can be spent on Ovations…
Avatar, before yanking your bridge or anything drastic, did you try replacing JUST the problem string with a slightly different gauge/composition/brand string? It is very possible that the intonation problem you describe can be resolved by simply using a heavier string without modifying your setup at all. That might be the simplest solution, and you could determine that with just a couple of changes of one string. As I'm sure you are aware, many folks use custom combinations of strings to get the sound/feel/intonation "just right."
Strings? I generally use Martin Extra Lights (.010-.047) on my acoustic 12-strings, including my Adamas (1598-MEII.) I have not had any problems with them. They meet my two most important criteria; they sound/play nice and are (relatively) cheap.
Now, if you want to have fun with intonation issues with a 12-string, try a stock Ric 360/12. They have a 6-saddle bridge, so you can only adjust each string pair. It takes quite a bit of tweaking and compromise to get the best overall sound. (Although they can be retrofitted with a 12-saddle bridge, which theoretically solves that problem.)
I also think such "issues" are often why some 12's have such a pleasantly distinctive sound… (see my sig…) ;) |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by Gallerinski:
I doubt the company that makes elixers thinks they are overpriced. They cost 3x's as much and last 5x's longer. Pretty good deal..... |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | ... as long as you don't care how they sound. |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by Gallerinski:
... as long as you don't care how they sound. ....as long as you LIKE how they sound. |
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Location: Flahdaw | Has anyone tried the Martin "Finger Style" 92/8 acoustic strings? |
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Location: Hanau, Hessen, Germany | Originally posted by Slipkid:
The right tool for the right job.
If I wrote about bitterness, dispare and sorrow, I'd want to play a Taylor. Because if I was playing a Taylor, I'd feel bitter and depressed right from the start.
. :D I'm sorry for posting nothing helpful. But this was just too good! I laughed my butt of. Thank you Slipkid xD |
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Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba CANADA | Hi Standing,
Thanks for the suggestion... Will be at the music store tomorrow, so am looking forward to picking up a bunch of strings that I can try (on several guitars, including my fretless).
I think a thicker high G may help somewhat, but am pretty sure the bridge saddle is cut too deep for even a .010, which I am pretty sure is what was on there when I got it. What I did to allow using it temporarily was to move both G strings slightly off their slots. Just enough so the spacing wasn't too weird and the high G was out of it's too deep slot. Not ideal but it works...
As per G8R and Gallerinski's comments, will be trying on the 12 string Adamas, a set of Cleartone's (if... big IF, they stock them...) and if not a set of Elixirs.
Anybody have a preference between the 80/20's and the Phosphor Bronze? I know for certain they carry both of those. |
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Location: Flahdaw | Hey Avatar! Good to see you back on the forum! I apologize for my previous boorish behavior.
Since you asked, I'll give you MY opinion....
I bought ONE set of 80/20's and thought they sounded a little flat, but then I'm a picker and not a strummer. I prefer PB's 'cos they're brighter and each plucked note seems to stand out better. But, to MY ear, they get a little janngley when strummed hard. Maybe 80/20's will hold up to strumming better. |
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12 String Tuning/Intonation Problem?
