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Beal
Posted 2008-04-23 4:20 PM (#43543 - in reply to #43518)
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Well that's a foam head and those eppis are wood. The thought was to do them printed on paper and they could do it so well that noone would ever know. Yeah RIGHT! I guess that there were only a few. Like the early Adamas II guitars that had a vaccuuformed ring binding. They are wood grained but don't look quite as good as themoulded ones. There are a few of those out there but they switched over to the Ad 1 ring system pretty quickly.
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gerald
Posted 2008-04-23 5:29 PM (#43544 - in reply to #43518)
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are the eppoulets of my guitar (blue) the paper ones. they look to be one piece and have something like a wood grain imitation, like pressed into the surface.
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john sanders
Posted 2008-04-23 7:00 PM (#43545 - in reply to #43518)
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I have no idea what you folks are talking about.
Foam headstock, a different sinature, etc. etc.
Anyway, my guitar appears to have a wooden headstock. It's not shiny and has some wood grain to it. The signature is in ink (pen) and the volume and tone controls are made of wood and appear to be walnut.

Please keep this dialogue up; I find this dicourse fascinating.
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Tupperware
Posted 2008-04-23 7:21 PM (#43546 - in reply to #43518)
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For a period of time the carved-scroll part of the headstock was made from high density foam instead of wood.

Early adamas were signed by CHK, then CWKII took over the pen.

For a period of time the multi-wood epaulets were made from printed mylar.

Folks are just trying to figure out where your guitar falls in this smorgasbord of developments.

Dave
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Beal
Posted 2008-04-23 7:22 PM (#43547 - in reply to #43518)
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It will keep yer hear a spinnin.
gerald, your eppis are wood.
signature is not a big thing, someone else can explain that to you.
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john sanders
Posted 2008-04-23 7:28 PM (#43548 - in reply to #43518)
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Yes, the signature reads Charles U. or K. Kaman
Once I figure it out I'll post some pictures.
thanks again to all.
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Tupperware
Posted 2008-04-23 7:36 PM (#43549 - in reply to #43518)
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H.
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Beal
Posted 2008-04-23 10:37 PM (#43550 - in reply to #43518)
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Yeah, he's H.
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gerald
Posted 2008-04-24 12:09 AM (#43551 - in reply to #43518)
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beal, and why do you think that the signature of the later ones are more valuable ? ;-)))
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Charlie Ramon
Posted 2008-04-24 3:44 AM (#43552 - in reply to #43518)
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Thanks Bill for the info about the early vacuum-formed bindings of the AIIs. I realized that my 1682-7 has this ring and I completely agree, it looks cheap. There's a pretty good pic of it on Jerome's site:

1682-7 with vacuum-formed ring binding

Anyway, this is my favourite A/O guitar, play it 90% of the time. I'm a wide-neck freak but this is not the main reason why I prefer this instrument over the others. It was heavily used by the previous owner and thus opened up wonderfully over the years (even if some people doubt that this can happen with an Adamas guitar). To my ears this guitar sounds amazing.

Bill, I have a complaint: Your signature is missing on the label. Would you please come over and make up your mistake?

Karl
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-04-24 8:29 AM (#43553 - in reply to #43518)
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I'm enjoying this thread. It's the kind of thread that we used to have all the time when the board was new.

Beige Admaii are really starting to grow on me. Ever since I saw Karl's beige 1167 slothead, I've been drooling on my keyboard....
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Slipkid
Posted 2008-04-24 8:40 AM (#43554 - in reply to #43518)
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I agree with you on the beige, Paul.
The other one that suggested a natural spruce color was also cool.
My guess is that we are going to see a break from the traditional blue or red color offerings.
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cholloway
Posted 2008-04-24 8:54 AM (#43555 - in reply to #43518)
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Another indication is that the foam appears to go all the way to the nut... therefore no TRC.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-04-24 9:07 AM (#43556 - in reply to #43518)
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Colin, it wouldn't have a truss rod cover as they had K-bars in the neck that are adjustable from inside the guitar......
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cholloway
Posted 2008-04-24 10:26 AM (#43557 - in reply to #43518)
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Moody,
Correct! But does that include the ones with a carved wood headstock? Were all Adamas' of that vintage K-bar?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-04-24 12:21 PM (#43558 - in reply to #43518)
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Originally posted by cholloway:
Moody,
Correct! But does that include the ones with a carved wood headstock? Were all Adamas' of that vintage K-bar?
I believe so....
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Tupperware
Posted 2008-04-24 1:26 PM (#43559 - in reply to #43518)
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Original slotheads have a Truss Rod.
Adamas I and II have K-Bar.

Dave
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Jérôme
Posted 2008-04-24 1:47 PM (#43560 - in reply to #43518)
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#47-RI have also a Truss Rod like the original Slotheads isn't it??

Thanks for your replies about my #0125 and I'm know sure that the epaulets are made with wood.
I noticed that there's no white binding between the table and the trim like on most Adamas I know.
Is it usual on early Adamas I???

I'm in love with beige color since the first day and it's my favorite color with brown.
My next Adamas will be a "special beige" but it's another story that I should be able to tell you pretty soon... ;)

J :)
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Tupperware
Posted 2008-04-24 2:04 PM (#43561 - in reply to #43518)
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Originally posted by Jérôme:
#47-RI have also a Truss Rod like the original Slotheads isn't it??
FRI's have truss rod.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-04-24 2:09 PM (#43562 - in reply to #43518)
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Jerome, you need to get married and have kids so that you'll have less money to spend on guitars --- like the rest of us!
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gerald
Posted 2008-04-24 2:17 PM (#43563 - in reply to #43518)
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how many kidso do you have moody ?
i have two boys, 5 and 7
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gerald
Posted 2008-04-24 2:21 PM (#43564 - in reply to #43518)
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jerome, i love the beige, which beige are you talking about.
does the beigt exist with burst into real blue?
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Jérôme
Posted 2008-04-24 2:59 PM (#43565 - in reply to #43518)
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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Jerome, you need to get married and have kids so that you'll have less money to spend on guitars --- like the rest of us!
Paul,

I'm so lucky to be with a nice woman whom understand my passion for O's.
It's maybe hard to believe but sometimes she helps me to choose the next one... ;)
She's got a very kind kid who's very interested with guitars too so everything is ok.

Gerald, wait a little bit and you will understand what I mean with the Beige color... ;)

J :)
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gerald
Posted 2008-04-24 3:07 PM (#43566 - in reply to #43518)
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don´t tell me it is one 10 km from your home. ;-))
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-04-24 4:38 PM (#43567 - in reply to #43518)
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Originally posted by gerald:
how many kidso do you have moody ?
i have two boys, 5 and 7
That's interesting. Is is customary in France to give your kids numbers instead of names?
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