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Location: Tennessee | RE: Original question ... no, they do not stand up favorably to U S Ovation, and yes, they are lesser instruments. The ones made in Korea are better than the ones made in China. The materials used are lesser quality, and there's a "feel" to the Asian-made guitars that fall short of the quality we were accustomed to from the New Hartford factory.
That's not to say they aren't good or don't have their place. I've purchased two offshore guitars in the last couple of years (one made in Korea and one made in China). Both were solid tops. They were both OK, and I bought them for members of my family who needed something to learn on. They are both still in action.
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Location: Miami | Waskel@Work - 2012-10-28 11:25 PM
Try being polite and respectful. Sometimes that works even better than a search button.
I apologized in advance for bringing up a topic that had probably been discussed before. I then received a rude cryptic remark, followed by a few suggestions that I "go and look it up the dictionary and stop bothering the regular members, who have better things to discuss" - that was the gist of it. I said nothing rude, even to that - I simply said if it's too boring, move along. There is a difference between 'polite' and 'obsequious', and if some people think their years of service here merit the latter, well, that's just too bad. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I tried using the Search function with these words and got plenty of good results
- import quality
- import usa
- korean quality
Here's one particularly good thread
http://ovationfanclub.com/megabbs/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=26396&... quality&highlightmode=1#M452887
Draw your own conclusions, but there is no free lunch - ie, you won't get USA quality for Import money. If you are limited to import money than Ovation is a decent buy and certainly worth your investment. If you have USA money then obviously buy the better quality USA model. If you have USA money and think you will be just as satisfied with an import model, you will be disappointed. In the end it comes down to a financial choice, not what some douchebag on a chat forum has to say. |
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Location: Northwest Arkansas | When I asked the question I got the response, "Look it up. It's been asked before. Ididn't do it out of anger. I did it because the import post was last week and there were a LOT of answers. No disrespect. |
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Location: south east Michigan | "obsequious" ...... Hey... rule #43... page 28 ... section 3 ... "The use of big words on Mondays is strickly forbidden." Also... check out rule #68 regarding "pomposity". . Bottom line.... nowadays you pretty much get what you are willing to pay for. The exception to that rule use to be USA made Ovations. But now... that ship has sailed.
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Location: Miami | Timolin, you like Ovations AND you're from Miami?! At last! We gotta hook up! Come by the Sports Grill on the Green (at the Palmetto Golf Course) on Saturday night. I'll have both my custom US T top and my Korean TX backup with me. Get to know a fellow OFC'er! You'll soon find out that we're more than just a database. We're people, and as such we have personalities. I thought Moody's response was hilarious! But I've been here long enough to know - and enjoy - our personalities.
Hope you can make it Saturday! If you like chatting about O's online, it's even better in person! |
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Location: Miami | joetunon - 2012-10-29 9:33 AM
Timolin, you like Ovations AND you're from Miami?! At last! We gotta hook up! Come by the Sports Grill on the Green (at the Palmetto Golf Course) on Saturday night. I'll have both my custom US T top and my Korean TX backup with me. Get to know a fellow OFC'er! You'll soon find out that we're more than just a database. We're people, and as such we have personalities. I thought Moody's response was hilarious! But I've been here long enough to know - and enjoy - our personalities.
Hope you can make it Saturday! If you like chatting about O's online, it's even better in person!
Hi Joe! I do like Ovations, and a few have passed through my hands, one of which, an Elite I bought in Rome in the mid-90s, I still kick myself for selling. Unfortunately, though, I am Ovationless at the moment. Hopefully, if some of these venerable (Whoops! Another 'big' word, Slipkid - guess you'll have to look that one up too!  )gents can get past my impertinence, I might soon rectify (No, Slipkid, 'rectify' has nothing to do with E.D.!) the situation. Meeting up sounds like fun, but I'm to my eyeballs in work at the moment. |
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Draw your own conclusions, but there is no free lunch - ie, you won't get USA quality for Import money.
Is it as straightforward as this? I thought the cheaper cost of the imported models had more to do with cheap labor than it did with unskilled workers. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | It's basically that simple, except that the USA Ovations also got a lifetime warranty, while the imports didn't. I don't think anyone here should get into a debate about the difference, if any, between cheap labor and unskilled workers. That's a topic for some political forum. |
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Location: Tennessee | Timolin - 2012-10-29 12:28 PM -- I'm to my eyeballs in work at the moment. For someone as erudite as you, I'm surprised you used the word "work" when you really meant to say "bullshit". |
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Location: SoCal | The design is cheaper to build. The necks on the foreign built guitars can't be re-set. And they don't have the ANS neck bracing design. But that would be something talked about, now in the archives. It could be located using the "search" feature...... |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Why are you guys bein so damn nasty? |
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | This used to be a friendly place. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Old farts get cranky. |
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Location: Tennessee | I'm sorry. I apologize. I do get a little cranky when someone comes along and mocks one of our esteemed Members Of The Year, including mocking his intelligence and then making what I perceived as a homophobic remark and all of the other rude implications that go along with it.
I'm in the wrong place. Thank you all for a nice 10 year run. Time to turn this place over to the trolls.
Bye.
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | immoody - 2012-10-30 2:44 PM
The design is cheaper to build. The necks on the foreign built guitars can't be re-set. And they don't have the ANS neck bracing design. But that would be something talked about, now in the archives. It could be located using the "search" feature......
I was sure it couldn't be done either until a local luthier actually did it. Someone brought him a Celebrity that needed a neck reset and he came to me asking advice. I told him it couldn't be done, but he tried it anyway. He heated the glue and managed to pry it off without damaging either the bowl or the neck. Then he reset the neck and the thing now plays like a dream. |
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | CanterburyStrings - 2012-10-29 5:01 PM
immoody - 2012-10-30 2:44 PM
The design is cheaper to build. The necks on the foreign built guitars can't be re-set. And they don't have the ANS neck bracing design. But that would be something talked about, now in the archives. It could be located using the "search" feature......
I was sure it couldn't be done either until a local luthier actually did it. Someone brought him a Celebrity that needed a neck reset and he came to me asking advice. I told him it couldn't be done, but he tried it anyway. He heated the glue and managed to pry it off without damaging either the bowl or the neck. Then he reset the neck and the thing now plays like a dream.
I am certain that luthiery is one of those professions where the skill level varies widely. It sounds like this guy really knows his stuff. When I lived in Savannah, I only dealt with Randy Woods. Not only was he really good at his trade, but he was honest as well. |
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Location: Miami | immoody - 2012-10-29 3:44 PM
The design is cheaper to build. The necks on the foreign built guitars can't be re-set. And they don't have the ANS neck bracing design. But that would be something talked about, now in the archives. It could be located using the "search" feature......
What you mention is definitely a big deal. Some years back I contacted the guys at Ovation and asked them how difficult or easy a neck reset might be to perform on, I think it was, an Al di Meola, and they said it would be quite a simple process. If the overseas Ovation necks can't be reset, that's cause for at least mild concern.
Are all overseas Ovations equal? Is there any difference in quality between Korean and Chinese ones? |
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | Timolin - 2012-10-29 5:40 PM
Are all overseas Ovations equal? Is there any difference in quality between Korean and Chinese ones?
I've not played a chinese model, but my korean Celebrity from the 80's still plays and sounds fine despite the fact that no one, including myself, ever took very good care of it. (I'll admit it looks a bit rough now though.) |
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Location: Indiana | patchmcg - 2012-10-29 5:32 PM
When I lived in Savannah, I only dealt with Randy Woods. Not only was he really good at his trade, but he was honest as well.
Randy is indeed one of the best, Patch. Hell of a nice guy too. |
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Location: south east Michigan | Timolin - 2012-10-29 3:28 PM
(No, Slipkid, 'rectify' has nothing to do with E.D.!)
Ah me... 48 posts in and already with the penis jokes.
Classy Timmy boy.... classy. |
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Location: Miami | Brad Durasa - 2012-10-29 6:09 PM
Timolin - 2012-10-29 3:28 PM
(No, Slipkid, 'rectify' has nothing to do with E.D.!)
Ah me... 48 posts in and already with the penis jokes.
Classy Timmy boy.... classy.
Aw c'mon, Slipkid, simmer down - just messin' with ya! |
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Location: Sydney, Australia | Brad Durasa - 2012-10-30 9:09 AM
Timolin - 2012-10-29 3:28 PM
(No, Slipkid, 'rectify' has nothing to do with E.D.!)
Ah me... 48 posts in and already with the penis jokes.
Classy Timmy boy.... classy.
Isn't 'rectify' more of an anus joke? |
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Location: Miami | richard.parker - 2012-10-29 7:37 PM
Brad Durasa - 2012-10-30 9:09 AM
Timolin - 2012-10-29 3:28 PM
(No, Slipkid, 'rectify' has nothing to do with E.D.!)
Ah me... 48 posts in and already with the penis jokes.
Classy Timmy boy.... classy.
Isn't 'rectify' more of an anus joke?
I suppose it depends on how you look at it!  |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Tim, Since you are in Florida you may want to look this guy up. Yes, I did use the search function ... amazing the things you can find.
http://www.ovationfanclub.com/megabbs/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=29... |
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What's the verdict on non-US made Ovations?
