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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2015-07-28 10:01 AM (#513831 - in reply to #513785)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update


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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest		nerdydave - has the plan. Also a stud-finder is a useful tool except in my house all the walls are drywall over plywood. Took going through two stud-finders before I figured out why they weren't working.

Nancy - I made the edit, but honestly... It took me about 30 minutes of reading and re-reading this thread to figure out what line you wanted edited.

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Damon67
Posted 2015-07-28 10:19 AM (#513833 - in reply to #513785)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update



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Location: Jet City		Lisa was telling me how hard it was to find a stud in your house.




Sorry, but there's been too much restraint going on here.
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Nancy
Posted 2015-07-28 10:24 AM (#513834 - in reply to #513831)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update



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mileskb - 2015-07-28 10:01 AM

Nancy - I made the edit, but honestly... It took me about 30 minutes of reading and re-reading this thread to figure out what line you wanted edited.


THANK YOU Miles!!! Maybe now my cheeks can return to their regular color!

And Guys, THANK YOU for being so kind (yes, even you Weaser, I know that must have been difficult to keep it as simple as you did!) I am not used to having to think about every single word before I talk, it is hard for me to slow down at anything. But THANK YOU for not embarrassing me off the Forum, I really enjoy you guys so much!!

I have 2 very small pieces of the cedar left 6" and about 8", and I am going to grab a bunch of screws like the String Swings have, and practice, practice, practice, so that I don't ruin those! I watched a video on using the correct bit for the screw, and I actually did have the correct bit, so it is something I am doing wrong myself.

I did learn however, how to remove a ruined screw, "5 different ways to remove" them! (there are lots of videos on how to fix your mistake, but none on how to do it right the first time...) Drilling out the center then reversing it out worked well, and once you get it about a 1/4" out, you can put your chuck over it, tighten, then reverse it the rest of the way out! The Duct Tape didn't work at all!, and neither did the rubber band... So with lots of mistakes comes lots of learning!

Thanks guys! No more powertool posts from me - I will post pictures when I get all my Babies up on the wall though! And Thank You again!!!

Edited by Nancy 2015-07-28 10:50 AM
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Darkbar
Posted 2015-07-28 10:28 AM (#513836 - in reply to #513833)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update



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damon67 - 2015-07-28 11:19 AM

Lisa was telling me how hard it was to find a stud in your house.

Or even a working drill
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Glen C.
Posted 2015-07-28 10:39 AM (#513840 - in reply to #513785)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update



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Location: Corpus Christi, TX		Drilling a pilot hole is essential, then rub the screw on a bar of soap to lubricate the threads and you'll be amazed how easy it goes in. Keeping the power drill lined up to the screw is critical, lean in any direction will cause the bit to slip. And yes don't get in a hurry, let the tool do the work, don't force it.

Nice room and I'll bet it will be a great place to relax and play
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Nancy
Posted 2015-07-28 10:39 AM (#513841 - in reply to #513833)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update



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damon67 - 2015-07-28 10:19 AM

Lisa was telling me how hard it was to find a stud in your house.


Ok, now THAT was funny!!!

I understand now Beal, there are things "Men" can say, and things "Women" can say! Got it!
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Nancy
Posted 2015-07-28 10:47 AM (#513842 - in reply to #513840)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update



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GCates - 2015-07-28 10:39 AM

Drilling a pilot hole is essential, then rub the screw on a bar of soap to lubricate the threads and you'll be amazed how easy it goes in. Keeping the power drill lined up to the screw is critical, lean in any direction will cause the bit to slip. And yes don't get in a hurry, let the tool do the work, don't force it.

Nice room and I'll bet it will be a great place to relax and play


Thank You Glen!! That is very helpful!!

This is knotty (be nice guys) cedar, and I think that is partially where I am ruining my screws, would the soap help them go through the knots better? I might have made a mistake when I bought solid brass screws too, they may be too soft to go through them? I thought that they would look better.

Because the String Swing screws are not very heavy duty, would it be best to drill a pilot hole for each hole first??

Thank You Glen!
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Glen C.
Posted 2015-07-28 10:49 AM (#513843 - in reply to #513785)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update



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Location: Corpus Christi, TX		Brass screws are too soft for the material you are working with. A pilot hole is a must if going through a knot and yes the soap on the threads will definitely help. If not bar soap then a little liquid dish soap will also work.
If you continue to have problems you can buy screws that use a torx (star) drive that will not slip on the proper bit.

Edited by Glen C. 2015-07-28 10:56 AM
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DanSavage
Posted 2015-07-28 11:07 AM (#513846 - in reply to #513788)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update



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naellis58 - 2015-07-27 2:54 PM

Thank you Dan!!!


I love the sign, I wanted to have the Logo put on too, but assumed it would be copyright infringement...



The only time you have to worry about copyright infringement is if you're selling a copyrighted item without permission.

If it's only for yourself to enjoy/use, knock yourself out and use what you want.
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DanSavage
Posted 2015-07-28 11:09 AM (#513847 - in reply to #513842)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update



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naellis58 - 2015-07-28 8:47 AM

Because the String Swing screws are not very heavy duty, would it be best to drill a pilot hole for each hole first??


I usually will drill a pilot hole first. Not only does it make driving the screw in easier, but it also helps keep the wood from splitting.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2015-07-28 11:28 AM (#513850 - in reply to #513785)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update


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Location: Boise, Idaho		If I remember correctly, which is doubtful, the screws that came with the Swing Strings were better than the ones that came with the Hercules. Both were black, but the paint seemed to scrape off some of them. Glen is right. Brass is too soft. I have a Makita kit of drill bits that includes an attachment that will drill and countersink a hole on one side and you flip it around to a Phillips screwdriver on the other side. It works great if you are using a bunch of the same size screws. The knots are your problem. I'd try to avoid them as much as possible. The cedar outside of the knots should be soft enough to drive the screws into without a pilot hole. If you are mounting the hangers above your head it is really tough to get enough pressure on the drill and it pushes out of the head. After it bounces around a couple times it strips the head and then you have problems. Try to get up on a strong ladder or make a platform so you can get your weight behind the driver. Also make sure you are using the correct size Phillips driver. There are about 4 different sizes and when they get worn they won't let you put any torque on the screw.

And Beal, it takes a musician to repeat the same verse.
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Nancy
Posted 2015-07-28 1:26 PM (#513857 - in reply to #513850)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update



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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota		THANK You Glen, Dan and Mark!!!!

I am armed with soap, drill bits, and recharged batteries!!!
I am ready to go try it again!! I *CAN* Do This!!! (right???)
Thank You ALL!!!!
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Matt_B
Posted 2015-07-28 1:54 PM (#513858 - in reply to #513785)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update


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Location: Urbana, IL		Looks awesome Nancy. Can't wait to see it all filled up.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2015-07-28 2:30 PM (#513859 - in reply to #513785)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update


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Location: Boise, Idaho		I'm sure you can do it, but when you get good at it, be careful what you say. Someone might try to hire you.
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Nancy
Posted 2015-07-28 4:38 PM (#513860 - in reply to #513859)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update



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Mark in Boise - 2015-07-28 2:30 PM

I'm sure you can do it, but when you get good at it, be careful what you say. Someone might try to hire you.


Thank You Matt B and Dave!

And Mark, generally, I guess I would rather be known for being good at something, rather than bad, but with this, I would rather it just never come up with regards to myself!

Thank you all again for being so kind, and Darkbar, I do know how hard that had to have been to show so much restraint, so Thank You!!!! . And Thank you guys for the suggestions on how to improve with my task! I like being able to do things myself, but sometimes it is really nice to have some knowledgable input, and learn how to do it correctly!
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2015-07-29 2:38 AM (#513869 - in reply to #513833)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update


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damon67 - 2015-07-28 8:19 AM
Lisa was telling me how hard it was to find a stud in your house.


Ouch....

But she keeps look'n so it's all good.

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MWoody
Posted 2015-07-29 8:59 AM (#513871 - in reply to #513785)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update



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Nancy,

You are doing just fine dear!

 



Edited by MWoody 2015-07-29 9:02 AM
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Slipkid
Posted 2015-07-29 11:07 AM (#513874 - in reply to #513785)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update



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Location: south east Michigan		Woody... is that a long neck twelve about mid row, top rack?
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Damon67
Posted 2015-07-29 11:12 AM (#513875 - in reply to #513874)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update



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Brad Durasa - 2015-07-29 9:07 AM Woody... is that a long neck twelve about mid row, top rack?

I know I'm not Woody, but I know the answer cuz I foster parented it for a few years.

It's a custom he had built. Bear claw top, 12 string Custom Elite LX... regular neck, but next to that 12 fretter it looks longer.

 



Edited by Damon67 2015-07-29 11:15 AM
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Nancy
Posted 2015-07-29 11:42 AM (#513876 - in reply to #513871)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update



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MWoody - 2015-07-29 8:59 AM

Nancy,

You are doing just fine dear!

 



THAT is the one that I was looking for!!! Thank you SO much MWoody!!! I started out with Damon's design, but I have the wall space to do some in 2 rows, and was wondering that would look! Thank You for sharing your Gorgeous Collection!

I like the clean look of the wood against a white background, that looks Fabulous!

And Thank You!

Edited by Nancy 2015-07-29 11:44 AM
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Slipkid
Posted 2015-07-29 1:17 PM (#513877 - in reply to #513875)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update



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QUOTE: It's a custom he had built. Bear claw top, 12 string Custom Elite LX... regular neck, but next to that 12 fretter it looks longer.

.

Ahhhh.. I'm optically delusioned.

 

 



Edited by Slipkid 2015-07-29 1:19 PM
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2015-07-29 1:55 PM (#513879 - in reply to #513785)
Subject: RE: Nan-Cave Update


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Nancy, I didn't know you were doing two rows.  I had some measurements somewhere from when I did my wall.  I didn't have a full wall to use, but if I did, I would separate the two rows a little more, like MWoody did.  I hang the 12 fretters on the bottom row and they are a little too close to avoid bumping when I lift them off the Swing Strings. I screwed up posting a picture again, but you can see some in my album.

 

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Nancy
Posted 2015-07-29 3:59 PM (#513880 - in reply to #513879)
Subject: RE: Nan-Cave Update



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Mark in Boise - 2015-07-29 1:55 PM

Nancy, I didn't know you were doing two rows.  I had some measurements somewhere from when I did my wall.  I didn't have a full wall to use, but if I did, I would separate the two rows a little more, like MWoody did.  I hang the 12 fretters on the bottom row and they are a little too close to avoid bumping when I lift them off the Swing Strings. I screwed up posting a picture again, but you can see some in my album.

 



HOLY BUCKETS BATMAN!!!!! GORGEOUS!!!
Thank You for sharing that!!! WOW!!!

I am assuming that the picture below is of the Hercules Hangers? I like the way they hold them sideways! Very Nice Look!

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Darkbar
Posted 2015-07-29 4:36 PM (#513882 - in reply to #513877)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update



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Brad Durasa - 2015-07-29 2:17 PM

QUOTE: It's a custom he had built. Bear claw top, 12 string Custom Elite LX... regular neck, but next to that 12 fretter it looks longer.

.

Ahhhh.. I'm optically delusioned.

 

 


You don't give yourself enough credit. You're delusional in EVERY sense.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2015-07-29 4:40 PM (#513883 - in reply to #513785)
Subject: Re: Nan-Cave Update


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Location: Boise, Idaho		Yes, I used the Hercules for the electrics because I had a small space on that side of the entertainment center that would hold all my electrics with the Hercules. It seemed like a lot more space before I squeezed the "Li'l Dude" in there.If I was going to hang acoustics on the Hercules hangers like I did at the other house, I'd probably put them around 12 inches apart rather than 9.
If you haven't already figured this out, I found the best way to hang one of those long boards by myself was to put one of the middle screws through and attach it to the stud, then level it and attach the rest from the outside in.
I still have to finish hanging the Porsche stuff on the opposite wall. Too many other projects keep coming up, like painting the garage.
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