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cruster
Posted 2007-06-07 12:31 PM (#96610 - in reply to #96585)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar No. 5


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Originally posted by stephent28:
Originally posted by cliff:
Both are s/n #5, I would presume . . .
DUUHHHHHH.....

makes perfect sense now (realizing OFC is #5).
Pssst, T. S'plain to me what signal-to-noise number five means. :eek:
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povation
Posted 2007-06-07 1:32 PM (#96611 - in reply to #96585)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar No. 5


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Congratulations ProfessorBB!
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elginacres
Posted 2007-06-07 2:01 PM (#96612 - in reply to #96585)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar No. 5


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Perfessor...let me know if you want #43 for a week or so - It would love to spend time with its relatives in your studio

Mark
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-06-07 2:53 PM (#96613 - in reply to #96585)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar No. 5



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Mark, we need to find some time to do that. It would be interesting to hear these side by side. However, it would take a long time for OFC No. 5 to develop anything close to the mojo possessed by your No. 43. You said it best a while back on another post when you revealed that No. 43 may very well be the most oft played of all the original slotheads.
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-06-07 3:41 PM (#96614 - in reply to #96585)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar No. 5


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It would be very cool to compare a 47RI, an OFC guitar and an original slothead all at the same time under the same conditions.

So do you think Adamas guitars "open up" over time the way wooden guitars do? I always wondered this.

Dave
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Slipkid
Posted 2007-06-07 3:51 PM (#96615 - in reply to #96585)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar No. 5



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I have my doubts about any guitar "opening up" in a matter of a few weeks or months. I think it's more about the player learning to get the sound the guitar is capable of.
For instance... when I first got my UTE I played it like it was a piece of fine, delicate china. It didn't take long before I learned just how hard I could spank it before it started to complain.
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cliff
Posted 2007-06-07 4:30 PM (#96616 - in reply to #96585)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar No. 5


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". . It didn't take long before I learned just how hard I could spank it before it started to complain . ."


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. . never mind.


(it'd be just TOO "easy" . . .)
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2007-06-07 4:31 PM (#96617 - in reply to #96585)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar No. 5


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As was explained to me, think of a piece of cardboard, with a crease. Like the flaps on a new box. The first time you fold it it over, it's hard to fold, then if you keep bending it back and forth it will get easier and easier. The top of the guitar is no different. The edge where it connects to the body is the hinge or crease if you will. Over time, the vibration affects the rigidness and over time the whole top gets more flexible. Not much more, but some. I would think the Adamas CF tops, thinking the most vibration is in the middle-ish of the top, would start loosening up more at the center point and move outward toward the edge. Unlike normal wood tops I think this action would be much more consistent across the face of the guitar.

There is an interesting point with regard to old speakers. Expecially ones in low power amps like an old fender champ. The edge of the cone was weakened so much, that the slightest voltage causes the speaker to oscillate. Obviously there is a point of diminishing return where the edge gets so weak the cone doesn't stay true, but just before that... talk about articulation.

Fortunately a guitar top doesn't move as much as it just vibrates.
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Slipkid
Posted 2007-06-07 4:38 PM (#96618 - in reply to #96585)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar No. 5



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Context Cliff! ... please keep it context!
But I do appreciate your restraint.
I know that you just live to pounce on stuff like that.

I hope someday every OFC member gets the chance to see the results of a laser vibrometer test at the mothership. Take look at that and you'll see just how dynamic the movement of a guitar top is.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-06-07 5:34 PM (#96619 - in reply to #96585)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar No. 5


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It would be very cool to compare a 47RI, an OFC guitar and an original slothead all at the same time under the same conditions.


We're gonna come close that this Sunday, with the only variable being the strings.

Too bad that no one person owns all three.......
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Jeff W.
Posted 2007-06-07 5:41 PM (#96620 - in reply to #96585)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar No. 5


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Such a person would be of highly questionable moral aptitude.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-06-07 6:14 PM (#96621 - in reply to #96585)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar No. 5



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Originally posted by Tupperware:
[QB] It would be very cool to compare a 47RI, an OFC guitar and an original slothead all at the same time under the same conditions.

We could easily do this in Colorado. Within a 25 mile radius, there are four OFC members who can cover two original slotheads, two 47RIs, and at least one OFC model.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2007-06-07 6:22 PM (#96622 - in reply to #96585)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar No. 5


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... as would be, any community of persons in a 25 mile radius.
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giuseppe
Posted 2007-06-07 6:47 PM (#96623 - in reply to #96585)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar No. 5
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Great guitar professor! Nice photos!
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richardd
Posted 2007-06-07 7:12 PM (#96624 - in reply to #96585)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar No. 5


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....great looking Adamas, congrats!
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stephent28
Posted 2007-06-08 10:38 AM (#96625 - in reply to #96585)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar No. 5



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and I believe that there is one collector in the Southwest who is flying beneath the radar that now owns an original slothead, an OFC, and a #47.

Shame he retired from the OFC board a long time ago.

His comments, though usually irritating, brash, outspoken and politically incorrect to most, were always a treasure to read.
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cliff
Posted 2007-06-08 10:46 AM (#96626 - in reply to #96585)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar No. 5


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He was a Dick . . .
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2007-06-08 10:50 AM (#96627 - in reply to #96585)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar No. 5


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:mad: Stephen :mad:

Do not invoke!! No Summoning!! We speaketh not of this person!! :p :D :p :D

You know we're going to have all three (47RI, Original, and OFC) at Moody's right??
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-06-08 11:07 AM (#96628 - in reply to #96585)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar No. 5


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That's very cool that all three flavors of slothead will be at Moody's. Someone should bring a U681 to round out the quartet. Paul, what other cool guitars will you have? I'm anxious to hear what folks think of your 1627RI. That's the killer guitar for me.

Dave
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alpep
Posted 2007-06-08 11:51 AM (#96629 - in reply to #96585)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar No. 5


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Originally posted by stephent28:
and I believe that there is one collector in the Southwest who is flying beneath the radar that now owns an original slothead, an OFC, and a #47.

Shame he retired from the OFC board a long time ago.

His comments, though usually irritating, brash, outspoken and politically incorrect to most, were always a treasure to read.
since I have shipped 6 of the seven ofc guitars and know where they all went I can assure you NO ONE has all 3 that you speak of.
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giuseppe
Posted 2007-06-08 5:09 PM (#96630 - in reply to #96585)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar No. 5
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Oops! Thank God I am not the only one here posting misinformation....

:rolleyes:
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stephent28
Posted 2007-06-09 12:50 AM (#96631 - in reply to #96585)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar No. 5



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Originally posted by alpep:
since I have shipped 6 of the seven ofc guitars and know where they all went I can assure you NO ONE has all 3 that you speak of.
but with 5 left to ship someone will soon....

so put that in your pipe and smoke it
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alpep
Posted 2007-06-09 5:54 AM (#96632 - in reply to #96585)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar No. 5


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edited
because it is just not worth my time
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-06-09 6:33 AM (#96633 - in reply to #96585)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar No. 5


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:D :D :D :D :eek: ;)
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giuseppe
Posted 2007-06-09 6:36 AM (#96634 - in reply to #96585)
Subject: Re: OFC Guitar No. 5
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:confused: :confused: :confused:
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