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Location: Germany | Paul, do you remember the discussion we had some month ago? You told me:
"Actually, in the back of the factory there are 3 guys, Larry, his brother Daryl and his other brother Daryl, who decide which guitars go where... and they've been pissed at Europe for a long time."
It seems to me that they are currently pissed of Southern Californa.
Joking aside. From what I have seen on the pics from the factory tour these guitars are largely hand-made. Compared to machine-made guitars it's quite normal that they have their own cosmetic personality. I can also find this personality if I have a close look to my #47RI. I'm sure there are no structural problems with these guitar - even in the long-run. As long it doesn't bother you there is no problem with that. I'm not sure if I would accept a stain on the bowl although I have more problems with warranty claims (as you know there is a small pond between the factory and my home).
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| Karl, this was exactly my point. Although I disagree with Paul (personally I would have returned the guitar) I respect his choice to keep it. |
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Location: SoCal | Karl, you got me laughing with that one!
My attitude towards my guitars (almost all my guitars) is that these ain't no museum pieces. They're here to be played and they all tell a story. I can look at all the nicks and dings on my guitars and they tell me where they've been and what they've done.
Believe me, the way the guitar looks in the picture is much more pronounced that it looks in person. The flash must have really brought it out. In person, you'd never see the stain unless you spent time looking for it. It's just something that tells me that "this is my guitar and it ain't no factory assembly line" instrument. |
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| Paul! I love your attitude!!!
Guitars should not be Museum pieces. They are to be played and tell a story! How nicely said!!!
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Location: Marlton, NJ | Karl - I felt the same way about my 47RI. It's really such a small thing, but when I first looked at the gold leaf inlays on the neck, I thought that they were too faded - or not "gold" enough. I pretty much accepted that these are all hand made and it was just the way mine was built. I wouldn't trade it for anything.
I saw the spot on Moody's in the pics as well and thought the same thing... no one elses looks exactly like his. |
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Location: Simpsonville, SC | Crimson, you ARE bringing the 47RI to the jam, aren't you! |
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| Karl - I felt the same way about my 47RI. It's really such a small thing, but when I first looked at the gold leaf inlays on the neck, I thought that they were too faded - or not "gold" enough. Crimson I think you are right. The original Adamas (the later ones, since the early ones seem to have white inlays) had saturated solid gold fingerboard inlays. You can see it on all Jerome's photos. The 47RIs have a thin golden inlay on the border (periphery) of the "grape-leaves" inlays. When I called the Adamas Custom Shop and requested a quote for a solid gold fingerboard inlay the list price was astronomical! |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Giuseppe,
Does the Adamas Custom Shop quote those list prices on the phone for you or do they mail/email it to you?
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Location: Marlton, NJ | BegginJM - yes I am... and hopefully a couple of others as well. |
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Location: NJ | Originally posted by Tupperware:
Giuseppe,
Does the Adamas Custom Shop quote those list prices on the phone for you or do they mail/email it to you?
Dave dave
don't feed the troll.
I have a suspician he may be our old dr. buddy. |
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| dave
don't feed the troll.
I have a suspician he may be our old dr. buddy. Al, excuse me? What's going on with you guys? Are you obsessed with trolls nowadays?
O.K. The truth is that I contacted the Adamas custom shop thru a dealer other than Al. It was VERY expensive to build it with solid gold inlays!
What's wrong with that? |
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Location: Midland, MI | Originally posted by giuseppe:
It was VERY expensive to build it with solid gold inlays!
What's wrong with that? With the dollar dropping and precious metals on the rise, I'm not surprised. If it were 1990 or so, it'd probably be about 1/3 the price, eh? :eek:
Speaking of metal inlays...that cat's eye Adamas that TTenn had at the tour (what was the final model number for that?) was very sharp. At first glance, the inlays appeared to me to be aluminum, which would match the rim on the sound hole. The abalone is very nice, but man, aluminum would seriously complete the look of that guitar. Maybe some brushed finish tuning machines, too (right, Fred?!).
EDIT: Unless you used 10K for the gold inlays, I wonder if they'd be too soft. |
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| Apparently the gold is expensive, but also the labor for a custom work like that. |
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Location: NJ | no giuseppi (or perhaps elias)
you said repeatedly you CALLED the Adamas custom shop. I and others asked you for the number. since it does not exist, you are therefore not credible.
It does not matter where you purchase a guitar but mis information will NOT be tolerated here.
I suggest strongly you think about what you post and insure that it is factual before you post it. |
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| Al, I am totally SHOCKED!!!
For God's sake! I really don't deserve this.
I thought you were joking calling me troll!!!
My name is GIUSEPPE and I've been an OFC member since 2004.
As I stated above "I contacted the Adamas custom Shop thru another dealer" Actually I have contacted several dealers for obtaining different quotes and info.
I did not mean to misinform you guys, and I am sorry for the inconvenience!
But i trully don't deserve this kind of hostility.
I 've always tried not to offend anyone on this board.
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I know that sometimes what we mean to say does not exactly come across in writing. But can you see why we are confused by your statements? Do a search:
May 21, 2007
Originally posted by giuseppe:
I called the adamas custom shop this morning and I was told that the top was plain blue, no reverse.... May 21, 2007
Originally posted by giuseppe:
Al, I called them, but is it appropriate to post phone numbers and names here? May 28, 2007
Originally posted by giuseppe:
When i called the Adamas custom shop, they told me 87... Dave |
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Location: NJ | Originally posted by giuseppe:
Al, I am totally SHOCKED!!!
For God's sake! I really don't deserve this.
I thought you were joking calling me troll!!!
My name is GIUSEPPE and I've been an OFC member since 2004.
As I stated above "I contacted the Adamas custom Shop thru another dealer" Actually I have contacted several dealers for obtaining different quotes and info.
I did not mean to misinform you guys, and I am sorry for the inconvenience!
But i trully don't deserve this kind of hostility.
I 've always tried not to offend anyone on this board.
:( nope no shock Gregory.
I have become good at tracking IP addresses |
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| Hey Dave, thanks!
I get it, you are right, it is highly confusing!
Now that I read it looks like I wanted to provoke you guys, I am truly sorry (especially to Al!) but this is not the case, honestly!!!
It's a loooong story!
A few months ago i was crazy about an older 1687 (still am), i had posted on the forum, many people responded giving me advice. I also considered the 47RI and I also thought about the OFC Adamas (I had contacted Al at the time), but also thought of a custom Adamas. God knows how many dealers i've contacted (Elderly music, different GC centers, 8th srteet music, sam ash, etc, etc).
I MEANT that I have contacted the Adamas thru dealers. The ovation/Adamas number I was given is 860-379-7575. But then, i did not get the extension.
After long discussions with a GC dealer in Cherry Hill NJ I remember him stating that the OFC adamas (after he contacted the Adamas shop) had a plain blue top. My bad! I should have asked Al on first place. Later on, another dealer told me that after he contacted adamas he was told that the OFC was blue-burst...what a mess huh?
Among other things a sam-ash dealer (after he contacted ovation/adamas) told me that the 47RI were limited to 87, i am pretty sure he said 87.
Guys, especially Al, my sincere apologies man!
I stand corrected! sorry for the confussion!
.....yes, by the way my name is Giuseppe and I am not a troll! :)
I am still looking for an Adamas though...maybe I should email Al again....I hope he is not that upset with me....Al? |
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| nope no shock Gregory.
I have become good at tracking IP addresses :eek:
Al, I said I am sorry, what's wrong with you man?
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| Do you mean Gregory Smith, the dealer?
I have contacted him too, but after i talked to him I changed my mind, if you know what I mean!
My IP address is 76.98.36.101 and I am in NJ!!!!! |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Let's get this back on topic. I'm watching it so that I can fret about when the OFC guitar is coming. It would be nice to do a countdown. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | I was up in Vail at an all-day rehearsal yesterday and missed a day, but after checking first thing this morning, discovered that No. 5 and its accompanying box of goodies has arrived in town. Delivery is expected tomorrow. |
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Location: SoCal | Not meaning to taunt you guys, but the more I play this guitar, the more I like it...... |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Shut up and leave us alone. Nobody cares. |
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