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Darkbar
Posted 2015-07-29 4:50 PM (#513884 - in reply to #513883)
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Mark in Boise - 2015-07-29 5:40 PM


I still have to finish hanging the Porsche stuff on the opposite wall.

DING!!!!
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Damon67
Posted 2015-07-29 5:15 PM (#513885 - in reply to #513880)
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naellis58 - 2015-07-29 1:59 PM  I like the way they hold them sideways! Very Nice Look!

 

If you're challeneged for space it's the way to go, but you seem to have lots of space. Full on frontal views show off the pretty instruments better.

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MWoody
Posted 2015-07-29 5:18 PM (#513886 - in reply to #513785)
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I love you guys/girls. Just saying...
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Darkbar
Posted 2015-07-29 5:26 PM (#513889 - in reply to #513885)
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damon67 - 2015-07-29 6:15 PM

Full on frontal views show off the pretty instruments better.


Now THAT was uncalled for...
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cool66
Posted 2015-07-29 6:21 PM (#513891 - in reply to #513889)
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darkbarguitar - 2015-07-29 5:26 PM

damon67 - 2015-07-29 6:15 PM

Full on frontal views show off the pretty instruments better.


Now THAT was uncalled for...


Uh oh...here we go.......



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standing
Posted 2015-07-29 6:59 PM (#513894 - in reply to #513785)
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I have limited space, so I went a different route. These hangers can be moved anywhere horizontally (then locked in place) the hangers come in different lengths and the angles both at the wall and at the headstock are completely adjustable (and also can be locked when they're where you want them.) It's held up by two large screws anchored securely into each stud to be absolutely sure it would support all of my guitars.
Other than the anchor screws, I bought everything, including the metal backplate directly from String Swing:







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Nancy
Posted 2015-07-29 7:37 PM (#513896 - in reply to #513883)
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Mark in Boise - 2015-07-29 4:40 PM

If you haven't already figured this out, I found the best way to hang one of those long boards by myself was to put one of the middle screws through and attach it to the stud, then level it and attach the rest from the outside in.


I wasn't quite sure how to do 18' boards, but I propped up one end with the paint roller extension rod, then went to the other end and tacked it at the mark, then put my level in the middle, and tacked up the other end, then put the nails in at the studs every 16". Maybe not the best way to do it, but it got the job done! I have also decided that I like the old electric circular saw better than the heavier battery powered one... my saw cuts are not the best - but I watched a video today about using your speed square to ensure straight cuts, and that a thinner blade makes smoother cuts. I am only about 30 years behind everyone else on learning this, but boy howdy do I like the power tools, I am getting quite a nice collection of nice DeWalts!

Edited by Nancy 2015-07-29 7:45 PM
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Nancy
Posted 2015-07-29 7:41 PM (#513897 - in reply to #513894)
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standing - 2015-07-29 6:59 PM

I have limited space, so I went a different route. These hangers can be moved anywhere horizontally (then locked in place) the hangers come in different lengths and the angles both at the wall and at the headstock are completely adjustable (and also can be locked when they're where you want them.) It's held up by two large screws anchored securely into each stud to be absolutely sure it would support all of my guitars.
Other than the anchor screws, I bought everything, including the metal backplate directly from String Swing:


That is GORGEOUS too Standing!!! I like the line up effect!!!
Thank You all for sharing your pictures and advice! I am really learning allot!

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Nancy
Posted 2015-07-29 7:43 PM (#513898 - in reply to #513886)
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MWoody - 2015-07-29 5:18 PM

I love you guys/girls. Just saying...


MWoody, were you visiting the Bell Tower???
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standing
Posted 2015-07-29 10:25 PM (#513903 - in reply to #513785)
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I would recommend using screws into the studs if possible, because they're less likely (than nails) to pull out under a load. (But, admittedly, I'm overly-cautious.)

Edited by standing 2015-07-29 10:27 PM
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nerdydave
Posted 2015-07-29 11:56 PM (#513904 - in reply to #513785)
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You need a miter saw to make good cuts. Screws into studs are a necessity!! Countersinking is a must but overfilling is optional cause there are lots of good looking decorative screws out there. Myself I prefer brass or black!!
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2015-07-30 1:11 PM (#513918 - in reply to #513785)
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Nancy, to avoid stripping the heads on your phillips screws, the pilot holes certainly work. However, I use nothing less than number 10 Spax screws which are extra strong and made to bite into almost anything, including brick and masonry. With Spax, pilot holes are optional. With a No. 14 size Spax screw, you can also use a square drill driver, I think a No. 2 size is correct, in lieu of a phillips. This will also prevent stripping the head. This was a trick I leaned from my stepson who hangs kitchen cabinets for a living. Good luck on your room. Can't wait to see it finished, although guitar caves are lifetime works in progress.
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Nancy
Posted 2015-07-30 3:09 PM (#513925 - in reply to #513918)
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THANK You Professor!!!!!

Do I need a Special Bit then to install them, or use a regular PH2? I will definitely get the Spax screws!! I would feel better with screws to hold it up than the nails, I sure don't want one of those support boards coming down holding all those vintage Ovations!!

And you are right, I have plans for down the line in better lighting, comfy couch and chair, and a good size wall mounted tv so I can watch Videos and play along with too!! Lots of ideas to tweak it already!!

You guys are the BEST!!! Thank You so much!!!!! .
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2015-07-30 4:21 PM (#513927 - in reply to #513785)
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Start with a #10 Spax screw, long enough to allow about an inch into the stud. A PH2 bit should work just fine. Be sure to drill a hole in the wood you are attaching to the wall as well.
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Darkbar
Posted 2015-07-30 5:42 PM (#513930 - in reply to #513927)
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House bet Nancy's about done with men's tips on how to build a guitar wall.
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Damon67
Posted 2015-07-30 6:31 PM (#513932 - in reply to #513930)
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darkbarguitar - 2015-07-30 3:42 PM House bet Nancy's about done with men's tips on how to build a guitar wall.

 

Yes, let's move on to comfy chairs and entertainment systems. I have a couple Ekornes chairs w/ ottoman. The arms ar very low, no impeding play...

 

For the TV, there's an 80" screen and HD Projector in "The Cavern" with a 200w per channel surround system.

If you wanna go all out, you buy drums and bass amps and stuff like that so you can get your friends to come over and play on the weekends.

Jam scheduled for Saturday, anyone near is invited.

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Darkbar
Posted 2015-07-30 7:24 PM (#513935 - in reply to #513932)
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Ok...now we're talking!!!
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BanjoJ
Posted 2015-07-31 6:36 AM (#513944 - in reply to #513785)
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naellis58 - 2015-07-28 9:10 AM

I have all the cedar up now on the walls, and just got my Nan-Cave sign in today! It turned out Beautifully!
I have the String Swings, and just need to get them spaced and hung, then the Guitars can come out of their cases, and I can see them all everyday!!!

I'll put up some pics, the stuff crammed all over my Family Room is the stuff my Brother was just storing for a month....

It is not perfect, but I am kind of proud of it, I measured, cut and hung all the cedar boards by myself, and the guitars will keep anyone from looking at my saw cuts too closely! . I suck at screwing things into walls so I switched to nails, like I said, not perfect, but at least I didn't give up!!



Very, Very, Very nice indeed! Well done Nan!
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2015-07-31 10:57 AM (#513948 - in reply to #513785)
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I was lucky to have my favorite Lazy Boy from the basement and added the leather Lazy Boy and couch from the family room in our other house. The best find was the $75 Craigslist entertainment center. It holds the tv and stereo from the old family room and all the albums and instructional dvds. I have to share with my wife who has a little craft desk in the corner and her exercise videos. I also have an adjoining bathroom, which is a necessity for a man cave. The only thing missing from the old man cave is a storeroom for guitar cases and a shop.
I was worried that being above the garage with a south facing window would be a big problem with heat (especially after moving out of a basement), but the separate zone for the air conditioner works pretty well.
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Nancy
Posted 2015-07-31 4:17 PM (#513973 - in reply to #513948)
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Damon, that chair is Fantastic!!!

Thank You Banjo!! This really is a wonderful learning experience, and I still have all 10 fingers, with no holes in them (yet!), so things are looking up!

Mark - can you please tell me what spacing you used on your String Swing - Center to Center? Thank You!!!

I am lucky too, I have a rocker/recliner down there, and there is a full bathroom and spare bedroom. My Tool room will be perfect for storing the cases (I am thinking of getting those nice shelving units to put them in. Then the only thing I will need to get is a small dorm fridge for my Mt Dew! I want to do a wall mounted TV for watching YouTube for lessons, and play along. And there is a wonderful fireplace down there for during the winter months.



Edited by Nancy 2015-07-31 4:20 PM
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2015-07-31 4:26 PM (#513974 - in reply to #513785)
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All this is terribly interesting in an "Ask This Old House" sorta way...
But I wanna see photos of the Nan-Cave with Guitars hangin'.
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Darkbar
Posted 2015-07-31 4:33 PM (#513975 - in reply to #513974)
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Nancy...in the event you need any painting done (guitars for example, preferably red) OMA is your man.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2015-07-31 4:43 PM (#513976 - in reply to #513785)
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Nancy, you might want to check a thread I started last October called "guitar room". I put my guitars 2 feet apart, but Damon put his a bit closer. There a more measurements and pictures in that thread, with the usual assortment of wise cracks.
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Damon67
Posted 2015-07-31 5:45 PM (#513978 - in reply to #513785)
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mine are 22.5" apart

floor to the center of the string swing yoke: bottom row is 55", top is 74"

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Slipkid
Posted 2015-08-01 6:26 AM (#513980 - in reply to #513785)
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Discussions on advantages of black oxide vs, zinc coated screws?
24 inches vs 22.5 inches? A challenge to both tradition and the industry standard!
Come on guys... you have to admit this is one of the nerdiest threads we've had in quite a while.
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And I've read every post.

Edited by Slipkid 2015-08-01 6:27 AM
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