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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | standing - 2012-06-30 2:56 PM
…but on the other hand, if they changed the necks, we'd probably find some other reason to complain about them… 
Yeah... They are made in KOREA!
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Location: Phoenix AZ | If you had to pick one, which would make you happier ...
1. Fender moves Ovation production to Asia, maintains custom shop and repair facility in CT, keeps the staff intact and builds Guilds
2. Fender shuts the CT doors and says adios Ovation and pick up your pink slips on the way out
The premise is that the US made Ovations didn't sell well enough to sustain the production. But how well is Guild doing? I've bought 4 and truly love them, but I haven't exactly seen them flying off the shelves either and the ones I do see are the foreign built ones. Basically the same story as Ovation.
My conclusion is that Fender wants to maintain one good old USA acoustic guitar as a money losing prop just to look red-white-and-blue. They tossed the Ovation-Guild coin and it came up Guild. Sucks for us, but if the coin had come up Ovation you'd be reading these exact same threads over on the Guild forum. That's life.
As said before, I ain't gonna change it and my days on this earth are too numbered to worry about it any more. Excuse me while I grab a (US made) guitar, crack a beer and start pre Independence day festivities.
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Location: Ohio | Ovation imports are better than no Ovations at all. That is for sure. |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Well ALL Ovations in Australia are imports. Even the US ones.
And I'm an unashamed USO snob. Wouldn't have an Asian O if you gave it to me. (unless it was one of those rare Japanese ones - but only if you gave it to me.
I still strongly think that Ovation would've had a better reputation if ONLY the American ones had 'Ovation' on the headstock - put 'Celebrity' on the Asian ones. A lot of folks on this board swear by their new Asian O's (and C's.) I'm not one of them. I'll take a used USO over a new AX to TX any day... and still probably pay less.
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Location: Tuscany, Italy | Sometimes the quality of a product is not strictly tied to the place where it is built. There are wonderful examples around the world without resorting to Asia.
The Ovation built in the early years of the brand had a high build quality. Already those of the '80 suffered from the increase of production. It is not necessary to be a snob to appreciate a wonderful top glued to a bowl. If we like that on the label it says made ??in the USA (I'm in the list....) is one thing, but this has nothing to do with the inherent quality of the instrument.
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Location: Ohio | muzza - 2012-07-01 1:43 AM
Well ALL Ovations in Australia are imports. Even the US ones.
And I'm an unashamed USO snob. Wouldn't have an Asian O if you gave it to me. (unless it was one of those rare Japanese ones - but only if you gave it to me.
I still strongly think that Ovation would've had a better reputation if ONLY the American ones had 'Ovation' on the headstock - put 'Celebrity' on the Asian ones. A lot of folks on this board swear by their new Asian O's (and C's.) I'm not one of them. I'll take a used USO over a new AX to TX any day... and still probably pay less.
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Location: Texas | MusicMishka - 2012-07-01 7:45 PM
I'd find a way to make it to the Rockies to see and play with everyone.
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Schedule permitting, I'd find a way to make it to the Rockies to hear Mike & Bobbo play.
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Location: Colorado | Heck - I'd travel to southwest Va...to hear mike play...curiously prof and stephen haven't chimed in...it's summer - they will...heck fugot lives in Boulder.....this will take a little planning - look for a potential interest survey in a few weeks - for an event several months out from now --- gotta think location, timing, space, freedom to jam, flexibility for family members, plumbing (veterans know), theme - clinic - professionals to help us, guitar storage...etc. Oh yeah...very few of us are made of money...so we better consider it. My one requirement we all come as guitar players and guitar lovers....if it is a roundback emphasis event - great...but other instruments are welcome......that's how you learn folks.... |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | The Prof was talking about a ski weekend awhile ago, but didn't get much response. Maybe not many skiiers. We have a trip to Ireland in September, but I can work around most other things. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Mark, we need to find a location and discuss logistics, then set a date and create a post in the gathering page. I know you're busy after school starts, as am I. Ideally, the value season is after the aspen turn and before the ski season kicks in. Are we thinking Denver or the mountains, maybe something close like Winter Park or Keystone? |
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Location: closely held secret | elginacres - 2012-07-02 7:44 PM
Heck - I'd travel to southwest Va...to hear mike play...curiously prof and stephen haven't chimed in...it's summer - they will...heck fugot lives in Boulder.....this will take a little planning - look for a potential interest survey in a few weeks - for an event several months out from now --- gotta think location, timing, space, freedom to jam, flexibility for family members, plumbing (veterans know), theme - clinic - professionals to help us, guitar storage...etc. Oh yeah...very few of us are made of money...so we better consider it. My one requirement we all come as guitar players and guitar lovers....if it is a roundback emphasis event - great...but other instruments are welcome......that's how you learn folks....
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Location: Jet City | Depending on the when, I'd be up for a jam in the Rockies |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | We've got a friend in Fort Collins that used to work on the reservoirs that supplied Greeley and had access to cabins up in the hills above the Poudre River. I don't know if any of those places would be available, or if they haven't burned up, but they would be cool places for a jam. Easy access from Ft. Collins. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | There are also lots of places in Estes Park with single unit cabins. Estes Park would also allow easy access into Rocky Mountain National Park for a day trip to the top of the world. The trick may be to find something that also offers a nice, secure meeting facility that would fit all of us for a jam. How would Friday - Sunday, October 5-7 work? |
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Location: Utah | Tentatively I am in for Colorado Oct 5-7. |
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Location: Colorado | John - I try to speak to the students en masse very little...but when I do, rest assured it is entertaining - and not grammatically correct. Stay thirsty my friends. |
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Location: closely held secret | That's comforting to know, Mark.
As much fun as it sounds, unfortunately I have other plans that particular weekend. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Oct 5-7 is the Guild factory tour weekend I believe. Even though it is a Guild Factory for all intents, it is still a great chance to see the factory and all of our old friends who used to build Ovations. Unfortunately it is limited attendence and all the spots available have been taken by the Guildites...... In a self promoting vein............. this Friday, July 6th I will be playing with my bandmates from 8-12. Would love to see any of my Colorado buddies......
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Cool...the old bald guy playing bass will be me (but you already knew that!) |
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Location: Nashville TN. | I probablt bought my last new ovation the shiny bowl reissue |
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