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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-11-06 11:24 PM (#174049)
Subject: What kind of wood?


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Check this Viper out

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2384&item=3760327917&rd=1

What kind of wood is the body?
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Tony Calman
Posted 2004-11-06 11:46 PM (#174050 - in reply to #174049)
Subject: Re: What kind of wood?



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purdy ain't it...
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Bailey
Posted 2004-11-07 1:10 AM (#174051 - in reply to #174049)
Subject: Re: What kind of wood?


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As I said in the other post, I sure like it.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2004-11-07 1:19 AM (#174052 - in reply to #174049)
Subject: Re: What kind of wood?



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Text of the posting says it's maple ... I read that Ovation made a very small number of Vipers with maple bodies, could this be one of them?

I like the opening price! Hope it bids up higher. A mahogany bodied Viper went for almost $600 a couple of months back. Makes the other one on eBay (with the white pickguard) look like a steal at $340.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-11-07 7:11 AM (#174053 - in reply to #174049)
Subject: Re: What kind of wood?


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The vast majority of Vipers were made with Maple bodies, and I've seen a handful with pretty spectacular figure in the bodies & necks. They were originaly specified with Alder as the body material but they went to Maple pretty early in production. The problem with Maple is that it can be very dense and consequently very heavy. There are some Vipers out there that weigh a ton.
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Slipkid
Posted 2004-11-07 8:26 AM (#174054 - in reply to #174049)
Subject: Re: What kind of wood?



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I have wondered what type of fantasic wood grain lies underneath the finish of my white Breadwinner.
This may be blasphemy, but has anyone ever tried to take the white or (gasp) TAN finish off a Breadwinner to see what is underneath?
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Standingovation
Posted 2004-11-07 9:37 AM (#174055 - in reply to #174049)
Subject: Re: What kind of wood?



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Moody - Is this a Viper SUPER Deluxe ????
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MWoody
Posted 2004-11-07 9:55 AM (#174056 - in reply to #174049)
Subject: Re: What kind of wood?



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Brad,

I stripped a Sunburst Viper body (Alder or Ash, see pics) and it had intersting grain - as well as being a four piece board.

I would think they are all purposely done for cost savings - black or solid color being the multi board or odd grained.

This one was special from the day it started!
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BruDeV
Posted 2004-11-07 12:59 PM (#174057 - in reply to #174049)
Subject: Re: What kind of wood?


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I've seen anywhere from one piece to seven pieces of wood for viper bodies.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-11-07 1:08 PM (#174058 - in reply to #174049)
Subject: Re: What kind of wood?


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Slipkid, every Breadwinner, Deacon, Preacher or Magnum I've seen, and that's a lot of guitars, have had the body made from a single piece of Honduran mahoghany. Refinish a Breadwinner with a clearcoat & basically you have a Deacon. These days PRS and the like would kill for lumber of that quality in that width.
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BruDeV
Posted 2004-11-07 1:48 PM (#174059 - in reply to #174049)
Subject: Re: What kind of wood?


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Does anyone know what kind of finish Ovation used for the satin finished bodies? I just picked up a Magnum IV that has a couple of minor finish flaws and I was wondering if it was safe to use swirl remover on it.
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Beal
Posted 2004-11-07 7:23 PM (#174060 - in reply to #174049)
Subject: Re: What kind of wood?



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It was a satin urethane of some type on the mag4. This VIper on ebay is maple. Many were alder in the beginning but there was too much variation in the wood grain so the switch was made to maple. I think there were some ash and a few mahogony. Lots of the breads and deacons were two piece but all were mahogony
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MWoody
Posted 2004-11-07 10:47 PM (#174061 - in reply to #174049)
Subject: Re: What kind of wood?



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Sorry to bring it back to me (It's all about me!) but is this body Alder or Ash:

Viper Project
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seesquare
Posted 2004-11-07 10:56 PM (#174062 - in reply to #174049)
Subject: Re: What kind of wood?


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I'm betting alder. Your pickguard looks like an oak pattern. Interesting. Heard about "fuming" your wood to accentuate the grain pattern?
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Mel Peptide
Posted 2004-11-17 12:55 AM (#174063 - in reply to #174049)
Subject: Re: What kind of wood?


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Hi:

I have a black breadwinner and am intrigued that there might be a one-piece gorgeous mahogany body underneath.

In January I will have time for a guitar project and would like to refinish this guitar. I'd like to go clear with it. Do you guys have any serious tips to make this metamorphosis go smoothly? I can do the solder gun thing, but have never done refinishing. And of course I would rather leave the guitar alone than ruin it.

Thanks-- Mel
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alpep
Posted 2004-11-17 7:09 AM (#174064 - in reply to #174049)
Subject: Re: What kind of wood?


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usually guitars that were painted black had some sort of blem.
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Bailey
Posted 2004-11-18 2:05 AM (#174065 - in reply to #174049)
Subject: Re: What kind of wood?


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Mel

If you are not a collector who wants original guitars, I would say go for it, if it is a piece of cheap wood, there is plenty of black paint on the market to cover up your disappointment.
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