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Norseman1
Posted 2003-03-05 1:39 PM (#211512)
Subject: gluing a brace


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A friend dug out an old "Harmony" guitar that sat in his attic the past 20 years. Anyway, his boy wants to start playing, and I volunteered to clean it up, put new strings on it and so on. After stringing it, I noticed quite a bit of buzzing. I then discovered that the two main back braces have seperated slightly from the back. Looks like the braces are intact, but the glue gave way. Anyway, the guitar is probably worth less than $50.00, so I thought I would try to use a syringe and woodglue to refasten the braces. My question is, what kind of clamp, or weight can I get inside the soundhole, to hold the brace against the back? If I only put weight on the back, the brace just moves with it.

Appreciate any ideas.

Norse(just trying to be helpful)man1

p.s. The machine heads are almost impossible to turn. Would silicone, or graphite help them turn easier?
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cliff
Posted 2003-03-05 2:10 PM (#211513 - in reply to #211512)
Subject: Re: gluing a brace


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Blow up a balloon inside of it.
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ovation06057
Posted 2003-03-05 2:11 PM (#211514 - in reply to #211512)
Subject: Re: gluing a brace


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use tite bond wood glue A popcile (sp) stick works good to make a clamp. Cut the stick a little longer than the distance from the top of the guitar to the back.then wedge it in to hold the brace in place till the glue holds. good luck
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Norseman1
Posted 2003-03-05 2:13 PM (#211515 - in reply to #211512)
Subject: Re: gluing a brace


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gee, thanks Cliff :D .
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Norseman1
Posted 2003-03-05 2:17 PM (#211516 - in reply to #211512)
Subject: Re: gluing a brace


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Thanks for the idea Ovation06057. How about Elmer's carpenter glue?
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cliff
Posted 2003-03-05 2:25 PM (#211517 - in reply to #211512)
Subject: Re: gluing a brace


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Norsey;

I didn't mean blow it up (like BOOM!), if that were the case, I woulda' suggested an M80 ;) .

I meant INFLATE a balloon inside of it to create outward pressure upon the braces. The popcicle stick idea is much better (and potentially quieter).
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Norseman1
Posted 2003-03-05 2:31 PM (#211518 - in reply to #211512)
Subject: Re: gluing a brace


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Oh, I thought you were just fun'in with me. I like the idea of popsicle sticks though, it will justify my eating two or three ice-cream bars when I get home later.
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seesquare
Posted 2003-03-05 2:39 PM (#211519 - in reply to #211512)
Subject: Re: gluing a brace


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You might want to put a little weight on the soundboard with the popsicle method. You don't want to warp the top in the process of regluing the back braces. If you have small hands, I suppose you could put some contact cement in the gap between the brace and the back, and just hold it together about 5 to 10 minutes. Go the bathroom first.
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cliff
Posted 2003-03-05 2:42 PM (#211520 - in reply to #211512)
Subject: Re: gluing a brace


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y'know, I was GONNA go with the cheap, "condom reference! Then I figured, "Nah, that's just sleazy, basal humor". I'm glad you beat me to it :D
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Norseman1
Posted 2003-03-05 2:46 PM (#211521 - in reply to #211512)
Subject: Re: gluing a brace


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You out-classed me Cliff, no doubt. As a matter of fact, I'm editing my post as soon as I'm done here. That was as bad as my Leaky Catheter post (which I latter deleted) yesterday.

Must be this -25 March weather we're having. Just brings out the best in me!

Norse(Nice thing about Minnesota, you can blame everything on the weather!)man1
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BruDeV
Posted 2003-03-06 12:13 AM (#211522 - in reply to #211512)
Subject: Re: gluing a brace


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Location: San Bernardino, California
Use teflon gun oil for the tuners. As little as possible. To much can make the wood swell.
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