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IanS
Posted 2006-12-28 5:32 AM (#224890)
Subject: Line Input or Mic ?


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I have two Ovation guitars.

One of them has an OP20 and the other has an OP24+

I plug these into my computer so I can record.

The OP20 only works if I plug it into the 'Line' input on the computer sound card. The Op24+ only works if I plug it into the 'Mic' input ?

Why the difference ? (Perhaps the amp on the OP24+ isn't working ? or is the difference in output just the way they're supposed to be?)
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HobbyPicker
Posted 2006-12-28 6:06 AM (#224891 - in reply to #224890)
Subject: Re: Line Input or Mic ?


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Don't know about the difference between the op20 and op24+, but you might look up the specs for them and see if they produce balanced or unbalanced output signa. My wild guess would be unbalanced from the op20 and balanced from op24+.
I use a Digitech RP50 between the guitar and the computer to contol the signal level and boost it. Any unit that can give control of the signal level will do, like an eq or a mixer.
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Tupperware
Posted 2006-12-28 7:46 AM (#224892 - in reply to #224890)
Subject: Re: Line Input or Mic ?


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OP24 is rotary vol. dial. OP24+ is vol. slider. OP24+C is vol. slider plus onboard tuner.

I think the out put from them should all be the same. Certainly not different enough that one would only work with 'line' input and the other only work with 'mic' input.

Check your computer specs. What is the difference between 'line' and 'mic' ???

Dave
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jb
Posted 2006-12-28 8:54 AM (#224893 - in reply to #224890)
Subject: Re: Line Input or Mic ?


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Random thought...

Are you using the same cable for each guitar? Just that the connectors may be slightly different (wear and tear rather than design).

Other than that stupid question, I'd be out of ideas.

JB
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2006-12-28 11:00 AM (#224894 - in reply to #224890)
Subject: Re: Line Input or Mic ?



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I believe both outputs should be the same, and both are line level. Have you checked the battery on the OP24+? I'm sure you have, but that would certainly make a difference.
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IanS
Posted 2006-12-28 11:06 AM (#224895 - in reply to #224890)
Subject: Re: Line Input or Mic ?


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Paul; The little battery warning light isn't lit and when I stick my tongue on the contacts on the battery it makes me not want to do it again in a hurry.

jb; I'm sat at my desk and one of the guitars is always stood within arms reach by my desk. The other is over the office in a corner on a stand. I'm a software developer and when I'm having difficulty understanding some techie problem I just grab the guitar and work on some tune I'm learning for a few minutes while waiting for the coffee.

Cable is plugged in the back of the computer and all I do plug it in the back of the guitar when I want to record something. When I take the walk over to the corner of the office to the stand to switch guitars and then on my way back I switch the sound card input before sitting down.

Long, round the houses, way to say yes, same cable for both guitars.
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cliff
Posted 2006-12-28 11:45 AM (#224896 - in reply to #224890)
Subject: Re: Line Input or Mic ?


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Check the levels of the virtual "volume control" of your sound card . . .
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-12-28 12:13 PM (#224897 - in reply to #224890)
Subject: Re: Line Input or Mic ?


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When plugged into an amp, is it noticeable?
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Waskel
Posted 2006-12-28 12:33 PM (#224898 - in reply to #224890)
Subject: Re: Line Input or Mic ?



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Let me make sure I have this right.
One guitar ONLY works when plugged into the line input.
The other guitar ONLY works when plugged into the mic input.

Is this correct? Or does one of them work regardless of which port you use?
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IanS
Posted 2006-12-28 1:10 PM (#224899 - in reply to #224890)
Subject: Re: Line Input or Mic ?


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Hi Wabbit, Yup, that's exactly what happens. I suspect if I could play the OP20 through the Mic input I'd get tons of distortion but I get nothing. I suspect the mic input on the sound card has something that prevents over-loading so plugging a 'line' level device into the mic socket doesn't do anything.
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IanS
Posted 2006-12-28 1:16 PM (#224900 - in reply to #224890)
Subject: Re: Line Input or Mic ?


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As I understand it the Line Input is for active devices such as CD players and other audio equipment which have their own amplification.

The Mic input is for device that don't have their own power or built-in amplification such as Microphones.

In my case the OP24+ only works in the Mic socket.

To be honest that's where I've always had it and thought that's where it belonged. It was only when I decided to plug the OP20 in for the first time and it didn't work till I moved it to the Line In.

I will add that apart from the fact I have to plug the Op24+ into the mic socket, everything works just fine, eq, pre-shape, mid shift all work just fine.
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