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Jason_S
Posted 2006-11-14 7:36 PM (#231644)
Subject: whats the story behind the brown bowls??


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ive often wondered what caused the change from shiny fiberglass to textured fiberglass to molded black textured lyracord to brown then back to black.....any answers here? im sure bill has the story..jason
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Tupperware
Posted 2006-11-14 8:08 PM (#231645 - in reply to #231644)
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The whole evolution of bowls back in the day is most likely based on manufacturability and cost. There was some logic in the 70's to the brown vs. black thing. I think natural top models with chrome hw got black and gold hw got brown. Black tops always got black bowls. Sunburst was usually black, except on Thursdays.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2006-11-14 8:24 PM (#231646 - in reply to #231644)
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"Sunburst was usually black, except on Thursdays."

HUH??? :confused: I always thought it was on overcast Wednesdays :D
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-11-14 8:25 PM (#231647 - in reply to #231644)
Subject: Re: whats the story behind the brown bowls??


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Brown bowels, interesting question:

The color comes mainly from bilirubin, a pigment that arises from the breakdown of red blood cells in the liver and bone marrow. The actual metabolic pathway of bilirubin and its byproducts in the body is very complicated, so we will simply say that a lot of it ends up in the intestine, where it is further modified by bacterial action. But the color itself comes from iron. Iron in hemoglobin in red blood cells gives blood its red color, and iron in the waste product bilirubin gives rise to its brown color.
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Weaser P
Posted 2006-11-14 8:49 PM (#231648 - in reply to #231644)
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Will someone please nuke Virginia?

Soon...?
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-11-14 8:50 PM (#231649 - in reply to #231644)
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Whud?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-11-14 8:54 PM (#231650 - in reply to #231644)
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I think several generations ago, Virginia was nuked... the resulting radiation damage created people like, well, Jeff......
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Weaser P
Posted 2006-11-14 9:02 PM (#231651 - in reply to #231644)
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OK, let's go the other direction then...can someone airdrop even semi-current editions of the Encyclopedia Britannica over VA?
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-11-14 9:06 PM (#231652 - in reply to #231644)
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Me an' Daddy...

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Capo Guy
Posted 2006-11-14 9:14 PM (#231653 - in reply to #231644)
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Originally posted by Tupperware:
Sunburst was usually black, except on Thursdays.
Hooray Now I know my 1758 was made on Thursday.

I've always heard when buying a car never get one made on Monday or Friday. :D
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edensharvest
Posted 2006-11-15 1:24 AM (#231654 - in reply to #231644)
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Weas, Jeff's just making a career of trying to get your goat.

Must be lonely these days...


And BTW, I was always under the impression that Virginia was the dignified homeland of the Southern Gentleman...more of the Robert E. Lee than Larry the Cable Guy. :confused:
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-11-15 1:56 AM (#231655 - in reply to #231644)
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i shoulda known this was gonna go south..and i dont mean virginia either lol jason
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muzza
Posted 2006-11-15 4:06 AM (#231656 - in reply to #231644)
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I thought my 1768 (gold hw) had a black bowl. Then, last weekend when I saw it in the sunshine, realised it was brown. Not a lot of difference between the shades.

I do covet an old brown hard case though.
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-11-15 4:12 AM (#231657 - in reply to #231644)
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maybe its just me but i see a big varation in the color..

maybe its just that my o's with black bowls are the old fiberglass and the texture is worn off and they catch the light more?? who knows..jason
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Phil Wong
Posted 2006-11-15 10:27 AM (#231658 - in reply to #231644)
Subject: Re: whats the story behind the brown bowls??


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Originally posted by Jeff W.:
Brown bowels, interesting question:

The color comes mainly from bilirubin, a pigment that arises from the breakdown of red blood cells in the liver and bone marrow. The actual metabolic pathway of bilirubin and its byproducts in the body is very complicated, so we will simply say that a lot of it ends up in the intestine, where it is further modified by bacterial action. But the color itself comes from iron. Iron in hemoglobin in red blood cells gives blood its red color, and iron in the waste product bilirubin gives rise to its brown color.
WOW Jeff after reading your explanation you gave me flashbacks to when I was taking my Clinical Chemistry course at St. John's Univ. Mitchrx also may have had Professor Lau Cam. He was a chinese professor who grew up in Cuba. He had a very thick spanish accent.
There was one time in class that he was telling us what topics were on the next exam. He was trying to tell us the next exam will be upto and including Steatorhea(Mitch sorry if the spelling isn't correct).This concerns blood in the stool Due to his thick accent some of the class couldn't understand him. He repeated the word a number of times. All of a sudden someone yelled out in the front "It's upto SHIT". The whole class and even the professor laughed :D :p .
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Beal
Posted 2006-11-15 10:37 AM (#231659 - in reply to #231644)
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They went brown because they thought it would add some snob appeal to the higher line models. There was variation in the colors over the years.
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MWoody
Posted 2006-11-15 10:56 AM (#231660 - in reply to #231644)
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Dubya-too (sorry),

While we're near it, what was the thinking that lead to a complete lack of incompatability of parts with the other name brands on the solidbodies?

Pickups and neck plates particularily.

Is it copyright, diversification or just to try and frustrate the bejeebers out of us?
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Beal
Posted 2006-11-15 11:26 AM (#231661 - in reply to #231644)
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We are Ovation. We do it better. We don't want them using those inferior parts on our guitars. What do you mean the pickups aren't interchangeable? All our piskups are interchangeable with each other.

That was the thinking.
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MWoody
Posted 2006-11-15 11:35 AM (#231662 - in reply to #231644)
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So there were people involved... that explains it!


It's a blessing and a curse that the interchangability is challenging. It does make what we have a lot more specialer.

I was able to find a mini-bucker in gold that I want to try in one of the solids.

Thanks Boss!
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-11-16 2:31 PM (#231663 - in reply to #231644)
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Originally posted by edensharvest:
Weas, Jeff's just making a career of trying to get your goat.

Must be lonely these days...


And BTW, I was always under the impression that Virginia was the dignified homeland of the Southern Gentleman...more of the Robert E. Lee than Larry the Cable Guy. :confused:
I am more gentleman, than most everyone on this board who has not met me, suspects....
And Robert E. was a traitor to the nation... Gentleman or not.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-11-16 2:35 PM (#231664 - in reply to #231644)
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and as far as Weaser's goat...

Well, who wouldn't? She's very attractive....

and Weaser's VERY possessive.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2006-11-16 3:02 PM (#231665 - in reply to #231644)
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Baaaaaaa
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edensharvest
Posted 2006-11-17 12:41 AM (#231666 - in reply to #231644)
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It's interesting to hear you say that Jeff, as a Virginian. Out of pure morbid curiosity, are you a native, or displaced?

I always liked to think of Lee as one of the most honorably conflicted men of notable history, but as a California native I'm not supposed to have a "serious" opinion of anything Civil War-related. ;)
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Weaser P
Posted 2006-11-17 7:31 AM (#231667 - in reply to #231644)
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Originally posted by edensharvest:
Out of pure morbid curiosity, are you a native, or displaced?
Never heard it termed quite that way but I believe Jeff to be as displaced as anyone on this Board.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-11-17 8:02 AM (#231668 - in reply to #231644)
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True. Virginia is the only place that would still have me...

Andrew, I'm an native of Arizona. They kicked ME out and LET Witko in... should give you some idea of Viriginia's standards....

And no doubt, Lee is regarded as a veritable god in VA and points south and he was very conflicted over the cause, nature and outcome the "The War of Northern Aggression" i.e. Civil war.

I should come clean and admit that I have little esteem for anyone who organizes or participates in campaigns to kill other people.
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